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[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

Hard pass. With major holes at CB (and only 2 under contract), LB and IOL I would pass on Sweetness, Barry Sanders, Dickerson, et al at the end of the first round. It makes zero sense taking a RB round 1.

And that's why 32 teams should be THANKING THE GOOD LORD that you're not their damn GM . We just won the SB with no great CB's, LB's or guards!!..so I really don't know why folks are so obsessed with those positions but then run down the need for a competent running game. Swift might very well be there for us at 32 and IF Veach takes him I'd be more than happy with that choice and why? Because he's a damn good player who could start first day, that's why.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

And that's why 32 teams should be THANKING THE GOOD LORD that you're not their damn GM . We just won the SB with no great CB's, LB's or guards!!..so I really don't know why folks are so obsessed with those positions but then run down the need for a competent running game. Swift might very well be there for us at 32 and IF Veach takes him I'd be more than happy with that choice and why? Because he's a damn good player who could start first day, that's why.

and no great RB. So what's your point exactly?

No in the first. Probably not in the second. Third? Yeah, okay.

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

And that's why 32 teams should be THANKING THE GOOD LORD that you're not their damn GM . We just won the SB with no great CB's, LB's or guards!!..so I really don't know why folks are so obsessed with those positions but then run down the need for a competent running game. Swift might very well be there for us at 32 and IF Veach takes him I'd be more than happy with that choice and why? Because he's a damn good player who could start first day, that's why.

You are clueless aren't you? Probably "obsessed" with those positions because there are 2 CBs under contract for next season. Are you forgetting Breeland and Fuller are free agents? Also because there is so much more value likely in those positions than RB st 32.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

and no great RB. So what's your point exactly?

No in the first. Probably not in the second. Third? Yeah, okay.

Cam Akers in the third over any available RB at 32. LB/CB or CB/LB almost will provide better long and shoddy term results than RB at 32 and whatever follows. If Akers is gone, WR/IOL round 3.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

You are clueless aren't you? Probably "obsessed" with those positions because there are 2 CBs under contract for next season. Are you forgetting Breeland and Fuller are free agents? Also because there is so much more value likely in those positions than RB st 32.



Cam Akers in the third over any available RB at 32. LB/CB or CB/LB almost will provide better long and shoddy term results than RB at 32 and whatever follows. If Akers is gone, WR/IOL round 3.

So we can't get a cb In the second round? Smh no-one is saying don't address the cb position...all I'm saying is don't act like we need Jalen Ramsey to win...because we just proved we don't.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

and no great RB. So what's your point exactly?

No in the first. Probably not in the second. Third? Yeah, okay.

Oh look..a mere mention of taking a RB early and the famous RB hater makes a sharp appearance...what a surprise

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Oh look..a mere mention of taking a RB early and the famous RB hater makes a sharp appearance...what a surprise

no, you just way overvalue the position as if it's 1975. It's not.

I'd take Akers in the 3rd.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

no, you just way overvalue the position as if it's 1975. It's not.

I'd take Akers in the 3rd.

Ok well done i agree with you for once re Akers

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

Hard pass. With major holes at CB (and only 2 under contract), LB and IOL I would pass on Sweetness, Barry Sanders, Dickerson, et al at the end of the first round. It makes zero sense taking a RB round 1.

If this was true, the Chiefs would not have brought him in for a look. Developing a solid running game would take the pressure off Mahomes and make the offense even more dominant.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

If this was true, the Chiefs would not have brought him in for a look. Developing a solid running game would take the pressure off Mahomes and make the offense even more dominant.

EXACTLY!!!..but naive fools would rather stack the backfield with average talent and put everything in Pat's hands instead of giving the kid a decent run game so our offense can be great across the board SMH

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

EXACTLY!!!..but naive fools would rather stack the backfield with average talent and put everything in Pat's hands instead of giving the kid a decent run game so our offense can be great across the board SMH

Here's the deal, although you have an emotional attachment to an idea in your head and won't hear logic, so I'm not sure why I bother.

1) The running game suffered due to inferior interior offensive line play. This is the primary reason for the lower ypc this year. You can see as we got deep into the season and the play-offs, the numbers went up as Wiz went in, Fisher was back and healthy, etc. We need to continue to rebuild the offensive line to protect Patrick. Being effective on the ground will do that too; but if your line sucks your running game sucks. Period. I'd rather draft a killer OG or OC than a RB early. Their careers are twice as long, for starters.

2) Damien Williams was also playing at less than healthy most of the season. I would like to continue to draft and develop competition at the position, but it's nowhere near being our biggest hole. OC, LG, LB, CB are all positions in which we are weaker in terms of possibly LOSING games due lack of talent. We're not going to LOSE a game because of Damien Williams. We might if we have no corners other than Ward and Fenton. We might due to shit offensive line play. See what I mean? No, probably not.

3) We've done just fine with RB's in the mid rounds. In fact, most of the league has. It's not QB. Every year, stud RB's are found in the 3rd. Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Jamaal Charles, etc, etc, etc. You do not need to draft one super early. You just don't.

4) Your own logic is and has been used against you; and you don't seem to get it. "We won the SB without star CB's!", yeah well, we won the SB with Damien Williams. "WE NEED A 1st ROUND RB!" Do you not get that? Nah, you don't. You have an emotional need to see one RB get all the carries so you can see 100 yds on the stat sheet. It comforts you. The game has changed, man.

5) I don't hate RB's. They're useful contributors. But spending a bunch of free agent money OR high draft pick capital on one is not a smart allocation of resources.