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Old 11-01-2020, 03:23 PM   #2
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Agreed. I don't think people are being fair to BB and I don't like the guy.
It's not about this year. Even without all the opt-outs and injuries, they're not a championship team.

Coaching brings consistency. QB's bring championships.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:27 PM   #3
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It's not about this year. Even without all the opt-outs and injuries, they're not a championship team.

Coaching brings consistency. QB's bring championships.
Brady was terrible last year. And it wasn't all his fault, he didn't have much weapons. But if you go from about the 20th best QB last year to a Top 5 QB this year on a team with elite weapons. You can see how important the system is to success.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:29 PM   #4
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Brady was terrible last year. And it wasn't all his fault, he didn't have much weapons. But if you go from about the 20th best QB last year to a Top 5 QB this year on a team with elite weapons. You can see how important the system is to success.
It's not just about this year.

It's about 20 years of dominance.

Brady was the Patriots. That ship has sailed. Bill won't win another ring. Bet on it.
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Old 11-01-2020, 09:48 AM   #5
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But Brady will never win another Super Bowl so IDK.
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Old 11-01-2020, 11:33 AM   #6
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Season isnt halfway over yet.

I've seen the patriots have a rough first half more than once. I'll let things play out.

The idea that one person is entirely responsible for new England's 20 years of success is just a bad take.
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Old 11-01-2020, 04:49 PM   #7
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Season isnt halfway over yet.

I've seen the patriots have a rough first half more than once. I'll let things play out.

The idea that one person is entirely responsible for new England's 20 years of success is just a bad take.
This is different.
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:35 PM   #8
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Cam Newton is dog shit. Something you should factor into this discussion
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:43 PM   #9
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Cam Newton is dog shit. Something you should factor into this discussion
So is Stidham if they don’t roll with him. They had opt outs but all on the defense right?

Another example of Belicheat trying to be the smartest guy in the room?
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:44 PM   #10
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Let me tell you, my heart is not bleeding for the brother****ing Cheatriot scumbags.
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:48 PM   #11
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CP keeps getting dumber. Pat's have the most guys out from last year, Cam has a noodle arm and a scrambled egg brain.

It's hoodie all day.
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Old 11-01-2020, 02:35 PM   #12
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CP keeps getting dumber. Pat's have the most guys out from last year, Cam has a noodle arm and a scrambled egg brain.

It's hoodie all day.
I’m not making any grand conclusions for 8 games but to just hand wave all of Cheatriot problems aren’t Belicheat is being disingenuous at best.

Pretty sure all the dudes that opted out were on D. So that explains precisely 0.00% of the offensive problems. (I did the math).

All the dudes are his dudes. He picked all of the receivers ends and backs. Cam is his guy Stidham is his guy. OC is his guy. ST is his guy DC is his guy. No GM to blame the talent on. It’s him.

Plus the dudes that opted out, there is a pretty good chance that’s on him. Notorious hard ass dbag coach has the most players opt out? Coincidence?

He gets to take credit for the rings, he has to own the cheating and this seasons butt****ery. We know, FOR A FACT, that it’s all Belicheat. No coordinator, assistant, personnel guy, no ****ing nobody. It’s him. It’s all him. He has to wear this one.
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Old 11-01-2020, 02:52 PM   #13
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I’m not making any grand conclusions for 8 games but to just hand wave all of Cheatriot problems aren’t Belicheat is being disingenuous at best.

Pretty sure all the dudes that opted out were on D. So that explains precisely 0.00% of the offensive problems. (I did the math).

All the dudes are his dudes. He picked all of the receivers ends and backs. Cam is his guy Stidham is his guy. OC is his guy. ST is his guy DC is his guy. No GM to blame the talent on. It’s him.

Plus the dudes that opted out, there is a pretty good chance that’s on him. Notorious hard ass dbag coach has the most players opt out? Coincidence?

He gets to take credit for the rings, he has to own the cheating and this seasons butt****ery. We know, FOR A FACT, that it’s all Belicheat. No coordinator, assistant, personnel guy, no ****ing nobody. It’s him. It’s all him. He has to wear this one.
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:59 PM   #14
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Old 11-01-2020, 07:21 PM   #15
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