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Old 04-04-2019, 07:07 PM   Topic Starter
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Sometimes you have to ignore metrics and draft a Preston Williams

Sometimes. Sometimes you have to ignore he tore his ACL his senior year of high school. Sometimes you have to overlook the fact that he served a suspension due to harassment charges filed by his girlfriend. Sometimes you have to ignore his lack of production at Tennessee where he caught 16 passes for 247 yards and two touchdowns in 12 games.

And instead, you have to look forward. Forward to his transfer to CSU, where he sat his first year due to NCAA transfer rules but blossomed the year after.

Where in his final, first, and only full year of college football he racked up 1,345 yards and 14 TDs from 96 receptions. Where he had 3 games with over 150+ receiving yards and one game capping 248 receiving yards, averaging 14 yards per catch his his final year at CSU.

It's true. His proday wasn't the prettiest. It was slightly disappointing to be frank, primarily because of the amount of athleticism scouts saw in him. He chose not to train for it and this is what we got:

Height - 6'4"
Weight - 211
20 - 4.36
40 -4.55
3C -7.06

But. These are also the reasons why you will get him in the 3rd - 6th round. This is why a guy who was briefly getting low 1st round grades has dropped to where some don't even know who he is.

And watch this.


Does that guy look like he lacks athleticism? You can clearly see the flashes of speed and acceleration on tape, the kind you'd need to get separation in the NFL. He's not a burner obviously, but what he lacks in speed he makes up for in size. He can absolutely be a deep threat. According to PFF on passes over 20 yards, he's been targeted 42 times for 17 receptions 605 yards and 6TDs. When targeted deep QB's have a passer rating of 117.6 throwing his way. He's extremely versatile, ranked #6 by PFF in yards per route run when playing the slot. And if Mahomes wants to throw some fade routes in the redzone? Preston's your man. Every single time you see him go airborne in these highlights you see violent pull downs at the catch point. I'm not saying he's Larry Fitzgerald but... he kind of looks like Larry Fitzgerald.

Take a flyer on this guy in the 4th or 5th and watch our offense take shape with a flanker/split/big slot that can play for 10+ years.
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:34 PM   #2
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:51 AM   #3
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I can't recall too many receivers ever drafted under Reid going all the way back that were much over 6'1 and slower. There was that one white kid in Philly I forget his name. I dunno. I don't see it happening. If they go for a bigger receiver, I'm really on board with Boykin, cuz he has wheels to go with it.
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Old 04-15-2019, 04:02 PM   #4
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I can't recall too many receivers ever drafted under Reid going all the way back that were much over 6'1 and slower. There was that one white kid in Philly I forget his name. I dunno. I don't see it happening. If they go for a bigger receiver, I'm really on board with Boykin, cuz he has wheels to go with it.
When I look at Reid it seems like he liked traditional west coast type WR's... but then he got a guy named Owens from SF. Owens was a big dude, but the thing that I think caught Andy's attention was his ability to run past the defense. After that the guy seems to draft for speed and quickness at the position and has had a lot of success with it.

Or it could just be that he adapted to the rules limiting physicality, making quicker and faster WR's more dangerous due to DB's inability to hold them.

I remember it wasn't the case early on when he was drafting Fred Ex and stuff. Either way a 6-4 4.55 guy doesn't strike me as a Reid type of WR.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:59 AM   #5
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He's definitely drafted some. Chesson, Riley Cooper, Marvin McNutt just since 2010. But yeah it's rare and I don't think it's happening either. I just really like this kid, talent and technique in spades, he's more of a sleeper.

I REALLY like Boykin. IMO he's probably the second or third best WR in the draft. So unfortunately I don't think he's there for us in round 2. But if he is... holy ****.
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Old 04-05-2019, 11:01 AM   #6
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He's definitely drafted some. Chesson, Riley Cooper, Marvin McNutt just since 2010. But yeah it's rare and I don't think it's happening either. I just really like this kid, talent and technique in spades, he's more of a sleeper.

I REALLY like Boykin. IMO he's probably the second or third best WR in the draft. So unfortunately I don't think he's there for us in round 2. But if he is... holy ****.
I hope they go the route of Conley and trade up in the 3rd for Boykin. That kid with an actual QB is going to be amazing. Shit....I'd trade up in the 2nd for him.
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:57 AM   #7
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Williams is intriguing for sure. You can make an argument for him in the 8-10 range among WRs as a pure prospect with a ceiling as high as the top 3.

Not somebody I'd be hard up on in the first couple of days but with a pair of 6th round picks he should probably on our radar (along with about a dozen other WRs who seem likely to slide a bit).
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:06 PM   #8
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Reminds me of Josh Gordon a bit- decent comparison errrrr?
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:15 PM   #11
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In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.
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In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.
He’s much better than that. That’s for sure.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:42 AM   #13
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He’s much better than that. That’s for sure.
He's much more talented than that, yes.

But the best way to determine a prospects overall 'prospect value' is to effectively multiply his ceiling by his odds of getting there; helps you factor in the floor.

So someone like Sills has a much lower ceiling and yes, Williams is 'better' than him in a vacuum. But Sills is way more likely to hit his and therefore probably a better pure prospect.

Unless you're just willing to overlook the bust potential and draft strictly for upside. I would say the only way you do that is if you're set at a position for the foreseeable future. With Robinson and Hill being FAs next season and Watkins being a potential cap casualty, I don't think that's the case here. Floor needs to be considered in our pick.

When you look at his bust potential and the depth of the 'flawed' WR prospects, you can make a pretty easy argument that he could fall anywhere from 25-40 among the WRs.

His ceiling is immense, no doubt. But his floor is a guy who could get cut out of camp. That needs to be considered in valuing him.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:27 PM   #14
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In the draft guide Preston Williams is the #35 receiver.

Yikes.
Why do you have this weird fascination with Arrowhead pride?
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Why do you have this weird fascination with Arrowhead pride?
I'm referring to the Athletic's Dane Bruglers draft guide, not Arrowhead Pride.
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