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Old 12-13-2021, 07:46 AM   #2
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Fair enough. They've dominated and I can see why people don't warm to them. Just cannot stand RB.
I'm a RB fan mainly because of the drivers. I would love to see Marko disappear though, that guy is a nut job. Horner and Wolff are both assholes, but to be fair, FIA has given them both plenty to bitch about this season.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:32 PM   #3
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Thought it was a massive shame and a bit of a robbery, but there it goes.....
I totally agree with this...it was nice to see someone other than Hamilton, but it didn't seem like what happened was right.



Lewis Hamilton says FIA ‘manipulated’ last lap showdown in radio message

Lewis Hamilton accused the FIA of manipulating the final race of the season shortly before losing his Formula One title to Max Verstappen, it has emerged.

The Mercedes driver was generous in defeat in Abu Dhabi after his dreams of an eighth world title controversially ended in a final lap showdown. But on that last lap, after Verstappen had passed him, Hamilton said over the radio: “This has been manipulated, man.”

After Nicholas Latifi crashed his Williams on lap 53 of 58 the expectation would ordinarily have been for the race to conclude under the safety car.

However Mercedes believe there was an unfair FIA intervention from the race director, Michael Masi, to ensure Verstappen was right behind Hamilton for that final lap shootout.

Mercedes lodged two protests on Sunday night but had both rejected by race stewards. However they have given notice of intention to appeal that decision - and now have until 7pm on Thursday to decide whether to go ahead.

Meanwhile Verstappen, who was nursing a sore head after celebrating through the night which ended to the soundtrack of We Are The Champions by Queen, has admitted that the FIA may look to change the rules that led to his dramatic last lap victory.

“Always after things like this, you are going to look into what can we do, or what should have been done,” he said. “It’s the same in football. Should it have been a penalty? Shouldn’t it have not? What can we improve? These kinds of things you’ve got to bring up for sure.”

“But I and the team didn’t do anything wrong. We just raced when there was a green light so that also made it really enjoyable for us to be celebrating.”

Verstappen also revealed that he had been sent a message from the Mercedes team principal, Toto Wolff, saying he deserved to win the world title.

“Toto sent me a text. ‘Congratulations on the season’ and that I deserved to win it. So that was very nice of him. Of course, emotions ran very high to that last lap from both sides. Both teams gave it all to the end, and it was just an amazing battle.”

The 24-year-old, who won his first world championship, also paid tribute to Hamilton, saying he was impressed by his sportsmanship.

“Of course it helps that you already have seven titles,” he joked. “I think that comforts him a bit. I think if it’s the other way around, it would be more painful for me. But Lewis is a great sportsman in general. He came up to me and congratulated me. And it must have been very tough in that last lap.

“It also shows the respect we have for each,” added Verstappen. “Of course we had our tough times throughout the season, but in the end, you know, we respect what we were doing and we’re pushing each other to the limit the whole season. So it has been really enjoyable racing against them.”

Meanwhile the FIA’s handling of the highly controversial ending to the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix has been heavily criticised as the sport “marking its own homework” by a leading international arbitration lawyer.

Duncan Bagshaw, a barrister at Howard Kennedy specialising in international arbitration and litigation, was dismissive of the process and said Mercedes would be in a strong position to mount legal action.

“The FIA, marking its own homework, perhaps unsurprisingly said that they stood by the decision of the race director,” he said.

Red Bull’s team principal, Christian Horner, had asked Masi to allow the lapped cars between Verstappen and Hamilton to unlap themselves, leaving the title protagonists closed-up for the crucial final lap. It was initially stated they would not be allowed to do so but it was then announced that those five cars specifically could unlap themselves.

When racing resumed Hamilton was a sitting duck on much older tyres and Verstappen swiftly passed him to take the win and the title. Mercedes protested the handling of the safety car procedures but had their protests rejected.

“Everybody wanted to see that race finish in racing conditions but the rule makes it very clear that any cars that have been lapped by the leader have to be allowed to pass the leading cars and the safety car before the race is restarted and he did not allow that to happen,” said Bagshaw.

“It’s very important for Mercedes to give the message that racing is the most important thing to this sport,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...urned-in-court
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:48 PM   #4
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FIA has been manipulating races all season. Both teams have been bitching about it. Masi made the right call when he called for the unlap, the problem was that he didn't make that call from the start and only allowed the small group to unlap instead of everyone. His initial call not to unlap was the wrong call, and I'm guessing someone told him if he left it that way, combined with the bad no call on lap 1 turn 6 it would look like he was fixing the race for Lewis.


I'm guessing Masi just had to many interests involved with his decision making, such as not wanting to end the WDC under an SC. FIA has been super inconsistent all year. People bitching about NFL officiating have no idea. lolol
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Old 03-20-2022, 11:52 AM   #5
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Old 03-20-2022, 11:56 AM   #6
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Was a fantastic race. Loved to see how competitive it was with the new regs. Great to see Ferrari and Haas running well.
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Old 03-20-2022, 11:57 AM   #7
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Old 03-20-2022, 02:07 PM   #8
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Waiting for some KMag gear.


Wait a minute - when did Magnussen come back to Haas? Moreover - why? Guy just isn't very good.
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Old 03-20-2022, 04:09 PM   #9
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Wait a minute - when did Magnussen come back to Haas? Moreover - why? Guy just isn't very good.
Haas had to drop the Russian oligarch money, and it's driver, Mazespin. They announced Kev a couple weeks ago. He was good enough for P5 today.
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Old 03-20-2022, 12:03 PM   #10
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Old 03-20-2022, 01:54 PM   #11
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My son raced karts in Europe for a few years. 3 of the current F1 pilots were in karts at that time. The tops was Max. That kid could shoe a kart around tracks like no one else.
Nice to see Ferrari might be able to bring it this year. The Tifosi was happy and the church bells were ringing in Maranello.
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Old 03-20-2022, 02:04 PM   #12
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Been a fan of Sainz since he lost his seat (unfairly) at Renault.

And the prancing horse has been my ride since the Jean Alesi/Gerhard Berger days back when they were still rocking that giant Marlboro wing.

Rooting for Schumaker was fun because hey - winning is good times. But it always felt a bit like rooting for the Yankees. Vettel did all his damage w/ Red Bull so...eh.

With LeClerc and Sainz, this has been a really easy paddock to root for. Damn happy to see them come out hot with these new regs. And getting 1 and 2 means it wasn't an accident.

They might just have a hell of a car this year.
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Old 03-20-2022, 04:59 PM   #13
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Dominant performance by the Ferrari drivers, that group made the most of the off-season. Like the new car design this year.
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Old 03-30-2022, 09:11 PM   #15
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