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Old 12-04-2019, 11:22 AM   #2
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Looks great!

When are they announcing Tom Hardy as the next James Bond? Seems like a no brainer.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...151328186.html

The new 007 could be Lashana Lynch
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:29 AM   #3
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Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.

Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.

They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.

This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).

I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:48 AM   #4
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Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.

Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.

They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.

This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).

I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."

Exactly.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:00 PM   #5
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Exactly.
I've warmed to Idris Elba as Bond, even though I kinda don't see the point. I just like the guy. The more I've seen of him, the more I like him. I still wonder if he has the 'suave' gear. He mostly plays 'rugged'. That said, Craig's Bond has kinda taken the franchise in that direction anyway so that stumbling block isn't as significant anymore.

The problem is that Elba has gotta be near 50 years old. And I know Craig is 50 but he's also been doing this for, what, 10+ years? Guy was in his late 30s when he was cast. He took the reigns damn near a full decade younger than Elba would be when Elba took over.

If you're gonna re-boot it with a new actor, you can't do the 'Bond is Old' thing for another 6-8 years.

Hardy presents a similar situation but I think Hardy looks a little younger than Elba. Hiddleston managed to turn into a parody of himself somehow and get knocked out of contention.

Nicholas Hoult ever get any traction in these conversations?
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:11 PM   #6
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Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.

Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.

They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.

This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).

I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."
Yah I'm old and crotchety and set in my ways. I'm not going to be in to watching Jill Bond. Their making a terrible mistake.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:31 AM   #7
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Looks solid! Daniel Craig has been an excellent pick for James Bond. Casino Royale and Skyfall were two of the best.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:55 AM   #8
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Craig has been the best Bond. Casino Royale is a masterpiece and Skyfall was better.

Damn it I'm so in.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:14 AM   #9
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I thought Bond was going to be a black transgender this time around?
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:05 PM   #10
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Side note: There's an actor I was thinking of who looks EXACTLY like Tom Hiddleston. His name is JJ Feild and the only reason I know him is because of the AMC Show "Turn: Washington's Spies: - pretty entertaining revolutionary war era show about the Culper ring. Problem is that Feild really is just a poor man's Hiddleston; same issues Hiddleston would present and nowhere near the actor from what I've seen.

But the guy that plays the main protagonist is an actor named Jamie Bell and he's damn good. He'd be the perfect age for Bond when the next movie is being filmed; mid 30s. I think he'd be a great fit.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:26 PM   #11
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Side note: There's an actor I was thinking of who looks EXACTLY like Tom Hiddleston. His name is JJ Feild and the only reason I know him is because of the AMC Show "Turn: Washington's Spies: - pretty entertaining revolutionary war era show about the Culper ring. Problem is that Feild really is just a poor man's Hiddleston; same issues Hiddleston would present and nowhere near the actor from what I've seen.

But the guy that plays the main protagonist is an actor named Jamie Bell and he's damn good. He'd be the perfect age for Bond when the next movie is being filmed; mid 30s. I think he'd be a great fit.
Bell is interesting. Wish he wasn't 5'7 though.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:08 PM   #12
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Bell is interesting. Wish he wasn't 5'7 though.
Well shit. Yeah, he was definitely short in Turn, but 5'7" is gonna be tough to camera trick around. Especially with a bunch of large action set pieces.

A 5'7" Bell fighting Dave Bautista would've been pretty laughable.

Craig isn't tall but hes not distractingly short. Bell probably would be at 5'7".
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:35 PM   #13
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Why do we even need another James Bond so soon? Who cares who will be Bond. If we are lucky they aren't even born yet. We have too many of these corny movies.
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Woof.

There was nothing of her albeit limited performance in the trailer that was even remotely close to endearing or engaging.

I'll watch women action movies. I loved Atomic Blonde. I'm stoked about Black Widow. I watched Peppermint recently, and Jennifer Garner is a shit ass actress but the action was believable. I don't hate it and I'll see it, but do it right, and I think there is a less than 0% chance that making James Bond a woman.

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Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.

Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.

They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.

This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).

I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."
I liked the Renner Bourne flick, I'm sure it didn't do well because they didn't go back to that well, but if Bourne doesn't work after what, 3 movies? No ****ing way they can do Bond after all the movies and books and just general pop culture that character has created.

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I've warmed to Idris Elba as Bond, even though I kinda don't see the point. I just like the guy. The more I've seen of him, the more I like him. I still wonder if he has the 'suave' gear. He mostly plays 'rugged'. That said, Craig's Bond has kinda taken the franchise in that direction anyway so that stumbling block isn't as significant anymore.

The problem is that Elba has gotta be near 50 years old. And I know Craig is 50 but he's also been doing this for, what, 10+ years? Guy was in his late 30s when he was cast. He took the reigns damn near a full decade younger than Elba would be when Elba took over.

If you're gonna re-boot it with a new actor, you can't do the 'Bond is Old' thing for another 6-8 years.

Hardy presents a similar situation but I think Hardy looks a little younger than Elba. Hiddleston managed to turn into a parody of himself somehow and get knocked out of contention.

Nicholas Hoult ever get any traction in these conversations?
I love everything Elba has done (It should be noted that I won't be seeing the Cats movie...FFS that looks bad). If you haven't checked out Luther, do it. It's just Elba being a fantastic ****ing actor. Obviously the Wire too, if you haven't (which would be a crime). But you're right. He's too old. Unfortunately.

I can't be a bigger fan of Elba.
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Woof.

There was nothing of her albeit limited performance in the trailer that was even remotely close to endearing or engaging.
I searched her name and the first headline to pop us was something like "Lashana Lynch steals the show in the new Bond trailer...."

Uh....what?

That other chick doing a badass kickflip thing and then Bond doing a doughnut while blasting machine guns out of the front of a DB5 stole the damn show. Oh, and Lea's back!

The shit people will try to force is just mind-numbing. OH HAI GUYS! SHE SAID SHE'D SHOOT BOND IN THE KNEE!! TIME TO MAKE 007 A BLACK WOMAN!!!!

Like I said, she wasn't even the most intriguing WOMAN in the trailer.

Just ridiculous.
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