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Old 11-13-2019, 03:54 PM   #2
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Well, see my post above. It has only happened once EVER...in baseball, football, basketball, or baseball.
Hmmm, that's interesting. Why do you suppose that is the case?
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:07 PM   #3
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Hmmm, that's interesting. Why do you suppose that is the case?
I'd say it's primarily a matter of boredoem / familiarity / laxity....players and coaches getting comfortable in their surroundings and letting the little things go, or maybe it's the message getting tuned out after consistent lack of results.

Or it could be the opposition figuring out how a coach behaves with that particular set of players.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:13 PM   #4
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I'd say it's primarily a matter of boredoem / familiarity / laxity....players and coaches getting comfortable in their surroundings and letting the little things go, or maybe it's the message getting tuned out after consistent lack of results.

Or it could be the opposition figuring out how a coach behaves with that particular set of players.
Fair part of it is that teams fire coaches often.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:17 PM   #5
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Nobody could win a Superbowl with this defense, not even Billichek.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:31 PM   #6
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Andy don’t need no SB, have you seen what his qb can do? Is that not enough? Dudes a skipping fool. Just a total lack of appreciation for some damn fine skipping and I ain’t having it and/or buying it no more. Appreciate don’t hate.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:36 PM   #7
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Chiefs need a win. This place goes full ****ing reerun after an L.

Been kinda unbearable this week with the amount of shitty posts.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:49 PM   #8
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Chiefs need a win. This place goes full ****ing reerun after an L.

Been kinda unbearable this week with the amount of shitty posts.
I saw where even after the loss Sunday the Chiefs have the 3rd best DVOA in the NFL. In other words by that metric they are the 3rd best team and have played the 4th toughest schedule.

Considering all the injuries and the fact they tend to beat themselves more than the other team does, that's pretty amazing.


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Top 5 Teams Adjusted Upward

You'll notice these adjustments are smaller than the top downward adjustments.

1) Cincinnati, from -49.0% (31) to -42.1% (31). Hardest schedule of the year so far.

2) Green Bay, from 9.2% (10) to 15.9% (8). No. 2 ranked schedule so far.

3) Oakland, from -1.1% (18) to 5.4% (12). No. 3 ranked schedule so far.

4) Kansas City, from 22.3% (5) to 28.4% (3). No. 4 ranked schedule so far.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:20 PM   #9
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Chiefs need a win. This place goes full ****ing reerun after an L.

Been kinda unbearable this week with the amount of shitty posts.
We’re losing the same way we have for the least 3 years. Seriously dude some of us are sick of hearing about instilling toughness and and making strides just to see this defense be the worst in the league at stopping the run and getting run over.

It’s old watching this team look helpless out there while the RB is running for 160+ yards and we go home again.

Let’s not act like that isn’t gonna happen again in January. I mean maybe that will change but at this point I doubt it.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:56 PM   #10
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Hes got a true franchise QB which supposedly gives you the path of least resistance. As opposed to doing it the hard way with a game manager, very good to great defense, good rushing attack and oline, and near the top in turnover ratio.

So he should be in that group that has a fighting chance every year when eventually ITS YOUR YEAR. Minimal injuries, schedule, home field advantage, key injuries to playoff rivals, etc. It should happen.

His biggest weakness is in game coaching, clock management particularly in the 2nd half of games. He doesnt screw up a lot but when he does thats usually when it happens. Hes capable of losing 2nd half leads that far inferior coaches wouldn't. Blowing 28 point leads in the 2nd half is extremely hard to do, but he did it. He owns some ridiculous playoff loses. Games he had no business losing. He gets too caught up in his play sheet at times and loses sight of the big picture. Wanting to get in that one play that they wont expect coming. The saying He likes to show hes the smartest guy in the room applies to Andy Reid.

He can do it, but when that moment comes again hes got to get out of his own way.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:10 PM   #11
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Chiefs need a win. This place goes full ****ing reerun after an L.

Been kinda unbearable this week with the amount of shitty posts.
This year has been a roller coaster of emotions that's for certain.

The team just needs to cut down on the penalties and turnovers. The things they can control. Honestly without those, this team is sitting at 9-1 or maybe 10-0 right now.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:37 PM   #12
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Jesus. You guys are acting like it’s all on Andy Reid.

Andy didn’t snap the ball at the wrong time.
Andy didn’t drop 3 passes for first downs at crucial spots.
Andy didn’t make Pennell inactive
Andy didn’t keep our other good run defenders on the bench against a run first team.
Andy didn’t line up with 10 guys on defense

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That’s what the defense gave up in our losses.

By all rights, this team should be 9-1 with Andy’s offense scoring like it has.

Spag should be getting nuked.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:42 PM   #13
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Jesus. You guys are acting like it’s all on Andy Reid.

Andy didn’t snap the ball at the wrong time.
Andy didn’t drop 3 passes for first downs at crucial spots.
Andy didn’t make Pennell inactive
Andy didn’t keep our other good run defenders on the bench against a run first team.
Andy didn’t line up with 10 guys on defense

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That’s what the defense gave up in our losses.

By all rights, this team should be 9-1 with Andy’s offense scoring like it has.

Spag should be getting nuked.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:40 AM   #14
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Jesus. You guys are acting like it’s all on Andy Reid.

Andy didn’t snap the ball at the wrong time.
Andy didn’t drop 3 passes for first downs at crucial spots.
Andy didn’t make Pennell inactive
Andy didn’t keep our other good run defenders on the bench against a run first team.
Andy didn’t line up with 10 guys on defense

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31
31
35

That’s what the defense gave up in our losses.

By all rights, this team should be 9-1 with Andy’s offense scoring like it has.

Spag should be getting nuked.
Why didn't Andy Reid notice that there were only 10 players lined up on Defense?

Those things happen because the team isn't disciplined. The team isn't disciplined because of its Head Coach. Maybe our defense would be better if our Head Coach knew it existed.

Veach was hired by Andy Reid as an intern in Philly 20 years ago. Can anyone honestly tell me that Andy didn't have something to do with Veach replacing Dorsey?

Andy hired Spags and Veach assembled this defense, Reid ignores the defense. How can anyone say that the Defense doesn't have anything to do with Reid?

People keep trying to pretend like Andy Reid isn't responsible for the entire team.

People keep saying that Andy Reid is a great coach. How can he be a great coach when 2/3rds of the team sucks? Andy Reid is a great QB coach. Andy Reid is a great offensive teacher. When it comes to calling the game Andy Reid isn't great, even with the offense. He doesn't seem to know that the Defense and Specials Teams even exist during the game.

Andy has been an HC for 25 yrs and hasn't won a Super Bowl. Mahomes is the 1st elite QB Andy has every developed. This is the best offense Andy has ever had. What about Andy screams great?

Andy is great at handling QBs
Andy is great at creating offensive plays
This is where Andy's greatness ends

Andy Reid should be an Offensive Coordinator.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:02 AM   #15
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Why didn't Andy Reid notice that there were only 10 players lined up on Defense?

Those things happen because the team isn't disciplined. The team isn't disciplined because of its Head Coach. Maybe our defense would be better if our Head Coach knew it existed.

Veach was hired by Andy Reid as an intern in Philly 20 years ago. Can anyone honestly tell me that Andy didn't have something to do with Veach replacing Dorsey?

Andy hired Spags and Veach assembled this defense, Reid ignores the defense. How can anyone say that the Defense doesn't have anything to do with Reid?

People keep trying to pretend like Andy Reid isn't responsible for the entire team.

People keep saying that Andy Reid is a great coach. How can he be a great coach when 2/3rds of the team sucks? Andy Reid is a great QB coach. Andy Reid is a great offensive teacher. When it comes to calling the game Andy Reid isn't great, even with the offense. He doesn't seem to know that the Defense and Specials Teams even exist during the game.

Andy has been an HC for 25 yrs and hasn't won a Super Bowl. Mahomes is the 1st elite QB Andy has every developed. This is the best offense Andy has ever had. What about Andy screams great?

Andy is great at handling QBs
Andy is great at creating offensive plays
This is where Andy's greatness ends

Andy Reid should be an Offensive Coordinator.
First, I doubt anyone is giving Andy a break on not being responsible for the whole team.

One of the problems with the team is that it is impossible to turn the whole defense over in a years time. You can't put the defense on Spags yet. Further I think the Chiefs team and front office are too willing to trade high picks for vets that are being paid a ton of money. Clark should not have been given a 1st. The one thing NE seems very good at is continually moving back and stock piling picks and then if a guy is available have a number of 2nd/3rd rounders to offer or build depth with.
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