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Old 05-06-2021, 08:11 AM   #2
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High picks should have both production and elite traits.
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Old 05-06-2021, 12:27 PM   #3
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High picks should have both production and elite traits.
Both Humphrey and Bolton were considered to be fringe first round picks with at least some elite traits plus a ton of college production. They were picked at the end of the 2nd round. It's not like we're talking about taking Bolton at #17 like the Tardinals did with Collins.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:11 PM   #4
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High picks should have both production and elite traits.
Abso****inglutely this.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:21 PM   #5
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Abso****inglutely this.
1. Nick Bolton had elite production and his ability to play downhill and knock people the **** out is absolutely an elite “trait” along with his instincts, football IQ, and leadership qualities.

2. Joshua Kaindoh was not a “high pick”.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:22 PM   #6
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1. Nick Bolton had elite production and his ability to play downhill and knock people the **** out is absolutely an elite “trait”.

2. Joshua Kaindoh was not an “early pick”.
Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.
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Old 05-06-2021, 02:27 PM   #7
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Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.
100%

They didn’t pick MY guy, so I’m going to bitch about a guy that we got at 58 that was a consensus late 1st to mid 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:02 PM   #8
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Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.
It was a pick based on need, not BPA. Not sure why that’s debatable
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Old 05-07-2021, 10:25 AM   #9
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Nick Bolton was the 58th overall pick.

People have lost their ****ing minds.

This all comes down to not picking a certain person. It has nothing to do with the value of the pick because people are talking out of both sides of their mouth.
I wasn't thrilled with the pick because I would have preferred a CB, S or WR but it's not as if LB wasn't a need. I mean, the Chiefs haven't had a dynamic linebacking corp since when, the 60's?

The combination of Gay, Hitchens and Bolton this season will ensure that a good linebacker is on the field on every down. Bolton's addition will be critical in limiting the ground attack of the opponent and if the Chiefs can get an additional stop or two on 3rd down in each game, it's going to take quite a bit of pressure off of Mahomes and the offense, so they won't feel as if they need to score 45 every game in order to win.
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1. Nick Bolton had elite production and his ability to play downhill and knock people the **** out is absolutely an elite “trait” along with his instincts, football IQ, and leadership qualities.

2. Joshua Kaindoh was not a “high pick”.
This isn’t the your dad’s football generation anymore. “Knocking people the **** out” isn’t legal anymore.

He did that in college last year and got ejected from the game
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:31 PM   #11
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This isn’t the your dad’s football generation anymore. “Knocking people the **** out” isn’t legal anymore.

He did that in college last year and got ejected from the game
Yea, because you can’t hit people hard legally in the NFL. I didn’t literally mean knock people out. JFC man. There are countless examples of him laying the wood legally.

The hit he was ejected for shouldn’t have been an ejection, and likely wouldn’t be in the NFL. Besides, that’s one ****ing play in his entire career.
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Old 05-06-2021, 07:09 PM   #12
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High picks should have both production and elite traits.
Which are hard to get outside the first round as a package but does exist.

Had that been the case, the Chiefs should have taken Paulson Adebo and Humphrey.
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Old 05-07-2021, 09:42 AM   #13
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I don’t expect them to take a LB in the 1st either, but it’s still possible considering it’s still one of our biggest needs for the future.

Collins or Bolton just might be BPA.

The Chiefs, under Reid, have a history of drafting for future departures the following year. Remember, even CEH wasn’t supposed to be the starter this year. Replacing Hitchens is a lot on the mental side, so it’s possible that they could want to get ahead of it and draft their guy a year early. That way when Hitchens is gone, you have 2 good young LB’s. You could also play Gay and the rookie a lot more in subs so we don’t have to see Niemann on the field anymore and avoid Hitchens in coverage as much as possible.

Again, I agree that it’s unlikely, but it’s absolutely possible.
But I’m clearly just a homer defending the Bolton/Kaindoh picks because I’ll defend every move they make!
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:02 PM   #15
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It feels like the Chiefs didn't expect either Bolton OR Humphrey to be available when they were.
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