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Old 08-01-2024, 01:11 PM  
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Old Today, 11:01 AM   #121
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Eh, I like Nabers as much as the next guy but I can find WR's everywhere these days.

T's of Alts ability aren't of abundance.
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Old Today, 11:02 AM   #122
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I'd guess Slater walks, Alt goes to LT.
So instead of a paying your young LT and adding an elite WR prospect to your team, you're going to let your young LT walk so you can backfill for him?

It's just bad resource management. Who on that roster are they going to spend the 'Slater Money' on if not Slater? They don't have much great young talent worth holding onto.

So they want to take it into the FA market where you get 70 cents for the dollar on older players?

As a Chiefs fan, I loved that pick.
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A guy thats "A RT" draft propsect is usually more "not good enough to play T and will end up a G" prospect.

Alt is a legit elite T prospect. I'd take him and let the rest sort itself out.
You think JC Latham is one of those not good enough to play T prospects? Such that he'd be worse than a different T prospect adjusting to the NFL on top of learning to play on the right side?
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So instead of a paying your young LT and adding an elite WR prospect to your team, you're going to let your young LT walk so you can backfill for him?

It's just bad resource management. Who on that roster are they going to spend the 'Slater Money' on if not Slater? They don't have much great young talent worth holding onto.

So they want to take it into the FA market where you get 70 cents for the dollar on older players?

As a Chiefs fan, I loved that pick.
Tag and trade him.

Get as much young $ players as you can.
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If KC had drafted Alt over Nabers there would have been rioting in the streets, and he's a Chiefs legacy.
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Eh, I like Nabers as much as the next guy but I can find WR's everywhere these days.

T's of Alts ability aren't of abundance.
This is just a logical fallacy.
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Eh, I like Nabers as much as the next guy but I can find WR's everywhere these days.

T's of Alts ability aren't of abundance.
This is just a logical fallacy. You're equating finding decent players with finding elite players. You can find offensive linemen everywhere these days. WR's of Nabers' ability aren't of abundance.

See how that's true, too?

It's about getting an elite talent when you have a top five pick. Did they get an elite talent? Yes. Was it a position of need? no. They could have had an elite talent at a position of need and avoided the redundancy. It's not a bad draft pick, but it is bad roster management.
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Tag and trade him.

Get as much young $ players as you can.
You're not getting a top 10 pick for Slater (the contract demands are going to be substantial). And he's played like a top 10 talent.

I think you lose the shell-game. They NEED another WR in the worst way and the guy they get with the pick they get for Slater isn't going to be the same caliber as Nabers.

Nabers + Slater > Alt + mid/late 1st round WR in all likelihood.

They just aren't in the same boat as us - they don't HAVE a lot of good young players they have to pick from. They have one guy who deserves big money and that's Slater - so spend it on him.

Otherwise you're gonna spend it on lesser options in FA.
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If KC had drafted Alt over Nabers there would have been rioting in the streets, and he's a Chiefs legacy.
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These guys still think we should have drafted Watson.
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Here's my thing with that though, at least the Chiefs pass the ball a ton, so you could argue that RT is more valuable for us than most teams, because they will be pass blocking a ton.

What is the point in taking a RT that high when you're also going back to a 90s offense?
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So instead of a paying your young LT and adding an elite WR prospect to your team, you're going to let your young LT walk so you can backfill for him?

It's just bad resource management. Who on that roster are they going to spend the 'Slater Money' on if not Slater? They don't have much great young talent worth holding onto.

So they want to take it into the FA market where you get 70 cents for the dollar on older players?

As a Chiefs fan, I loved that pick.
It's literally Jim Harbaugh bullshit, he thinks it's 1987.

They literally have 2 top 15 OT's and a 1st round guard, isn't that a bit much? They also have a super expensive QB who is going to hand off and run play action now because giving him actual weapons isn't the Harbaugh way.

And the part that makes it the most laughable to me is the amount of people who will laud the toughness of Harbaugh and how that makes them a challenge for the Chiefs.
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Old Today, 11:17 AM   #133
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You're not getting a top 10 pick for Slater (the contract demands are going to be substantial). And he's played like a top 10 talent.

I think you lose the shell-game. They NEED another WR in the worst way and the guy they get with the pick they get for Slater isn't going to be the same caliber as Nabers.

Nabers + Slater > Alt + mid/late 1st round WR in all likelihood.

They just aren't in the same boat as us - they don't HAVE a lot of good young players they have to pick from. They have one guy who deserves big money and that's Slater - so spend it on him.

Otherwise you're gonna spend it on lesser options in FA.
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2011: 31st in pass attempts
2012: 31st
2013: 32nd
2014: 29th

Jim Harbaugh's Michigan in 2023 was 117th out of 130 qualifying teams in pass rate (40.2%). In 2022, they were 121st out of 130.


They don't value WR because he doesn't use the position, he even ran this type of offense with Andrew Luck at Stanford. They probably think Josh Palmer, McKonkey in the 2nd and Johnston in the 1st is more than enough WR investment for the way he wants to play games.
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This is just a logical fallacy. You're equating finding decent players with finding elite players. You can find offensive linemen everywhere these days. WR's of Nabers' ability aren't of abundance.

See how that's true, too?

It's about getting an elite talent when you have a top five pick. Did they get an elite talent? Yes. Was it a position of need? no. They could have had an elite talent at a position of need and avoided the redundancy. It's not a bad draft pick, but it is bad roster management.
It's not a logical fallacy.

It's an opinion (the correct one, since it's mine).

Finding good/elite tackles today is harder than finding good/elite WR's.
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