***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It absolutely does.

Now I want you to think about what happens if a large section of the population around here loses power for more than a day or two under quarantine and with idiots running around acting desperate for things like toilet paper.

Yeah, that's when shit gets real. Especially if the outage affects cell service. Once the cellphones go people, particularly the younger generations, will really start to freak the **** out. Information only from radios. Got batteries? Hope so. Food in the refrigerator will start to spoil, you won't be able to get gas, and if you don't have cash, how can you buy anything? Money in the bank won't mean shit if you can't access it.

This is when the zombies will start roaming the streets. And you'd better be stocked up on more than just toilet paper.

[Hammock Parties]

I mean I don't think it's anything to worry about in MO.

But what if a tropical storm knocks out power for a week somewhere down south?

****.

[srvy]

Just remember the utilities are designated essential its business as usual. Your power will be restored like always remain patient.

Its also the reason I haven't been laid off. A large engineering firm that does work for most of these folks.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I mean I don't think it's anything to worry about in MO.

But what if a tropical storm knocks out power for a week somewhere down south?

****.

It's not the season for that sort of thing

[arrowheadnation]

By reading through this thread every day, I'd swear that when this moment happened in the movie, there are a few of you that jumped out of your seats clapping while weeping with joy...


Don't get me wrong, things are awful, but panicking at each little thing that happens isn't good for your mental health. Be fortunate you live in the US. We're so sheltered from other parts of the world that we're a little coddled. Just think if we had an event here like the tsunamis in japan or SriLanka (230,000+ people died in less than an hour in Sri Lanka)...but you know, out of sight, out of mind. Stay well, stay home, watch some TV (Tiger King), stop reading shit on the internet...once you step away from the computer, normal life starts to creep in if just for a little while.

[Donger]

12,322 new cases, with about 20 states not updated. 8,300 in NY and NJ again.

[TLO]

Updated Missouri numbers for the day

Cases in Missouri: 838

Total Deaths: 10

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 10,752

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Updated Missouri numbers for the day

Cases in Missouri: 838

Total Deaths: 10

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 10,752

If I was in Springfield I might start getting concerned. I know that they had quite a few cases in a nursing home ran by the same company in Washington where the first outbreak in the country happened.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

If I was in Springfield I might start getting concerned. I know that they had quite a few cases in a nursing home ran by the same company in Washington where the first outbreak in the country happened.

Yeah all my surgeon buddies at the hospital said they’re expecting the wave to hit here in the next week

We’ll see

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think it is debatable. What is happening in NY may happen elsewhere and may not. We cannot say for sure that what is going on in NY will happen everywhere.

Yep. Planet Earth is a good example.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah all my surgeon buddies at the hospital said they’re expecting the wave to hit here in the next week

We’ll see

I am sorry..

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

If I was in Springfield I might start getting concerned. I know that they had quite a few cases in a nursing home ran by the same company in Washington where the first outbreak in the country happened.

Pretty sure all four deaths here were from that nursing home.

[SupDock]

As of March 19th there were around 10k deaths worldwide. We have now passed 30k deaths worldwide.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

How do you all feel about the medical community asking for donations of standard medical necessities?
On one hand we all need to band together and help, on another I see a very rich class of people not preparing for the very things they should be prepared for to help the bottom line.
Will the medical community hospitals to be more specific be so generous as to not charge more than a nominal mark up on simple things line IVs?

I made that point earlier in the thread, but unfortunately, the members of the medical community who are dealing with the shortages aren't the people that allowed it.



Some feet need to be held to the fire at some point here, but it probably won't happen.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Pretty sure all four deaths here were from that nursing home.

Was told that exact same thing by a Cox employee.