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Old 04-29-2021, 01:21 PM  
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Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay on the Outs?


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Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to return to Green Bay Packers, sources say
Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday.

The Packers are aware of his feelings, concerned about them and have had team president Mark Murphy, general manager Brian Gutekunst and head coach Matt LaFleur each fly out on separate trips to meet with Rodgers at various points this offseason, sources told ESPN.

"As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond," Gutekunst told ESPN. "Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."

Rodgers has not budged this offseason, but neither have the Packers, who have made it known they are not interested in trading Rodgers anywhere.

The San Francisco 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night, a source told ESPN, and the Los Angeles Rams inquired about Rodgers in January before they traded for Matthew Stafford.

The Packers quickly dismissed the Rams' overtures, the source said.

The Packers have offered to extend Rodgers' contract, sources told ESPN.

Rodgers is unhappy for a variety of reasons, with some of it dating back to last year's draft when the Packers didn't inform him before trading up to draft a quarterback with their first-round pick. Some took this as a sign that his days in Green Bay could he numbered.

He also is at a different point in his personal life, having recently gotten engaged to actress Shailene Woodley. Rodgers also has hosted "Jeopardy!" and said it would be a dream to become the full-time host. He could play football and host Jeopardy! together.

Rodgers has made cryptic comments about his future in Green Bay, but he has told others that he does not want to return.

On draft night, the Packers' biggest issue isn't who they land, but whether they can keep the former NFL MVP.

Rodgers' contract contained a $6.8 million roster bonus due in March. It could have been converted into a signing bonus that would have freed up more than $4.5 million in salary-cap space for this season but instead it "vested as scheduled," a source told ESPN at the time. It's listed as an automatic conversion in Rodgers' contract but even that has to be signed off on by both parties. It's not known if the Packers tried to convert and Rodgers refused to sign off on it, or if they did not attempt a conversion.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:29 AM   #1261
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Of course it's better. You have the QB, you can put pieces around him easier than you can add an MVP QB to a team.
Well, the window is too narrow for Rodgers if you try to do that though... if you're trading for Rodgers with the goal of winning the SB in the next 3 years, you have to be crazy super deep if you have to give up key young studs at top positions like DL and OL.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:49 AM   #1262
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Broncos fans think they're going to get Rodgers for a few draft picks and no players. Hilarious.

GB has no intention of making a deal, but if they did, they would absolutely fleece the trade partner. They have the leverage here. They're not giving up the MVP for a few late first round picks.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:56 AM   #1263
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Well, the window is too narrow for Rodgers if you try to do that though... if you're trading for Rodgers with the goal of winning the SB in the next 3 years, you have to be crazy super deep if you have to give up key young studs at top positions like DL and OL.
Is Bradley Chubb an all pro type pass rusher? Is Jeudy that at WR?

Maybe they are and you just can't let them go. I dunno. But if you can trade a pass rusher and a WR for a HOF MVP QB in his prime, I'd think you'd be pretty interested.

The issue is just Rodgers age. Are we at "fall off a cliff" time?
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:56 AM   #1264
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I’m willing to bet if he’s traded it will be for less than what most are predicting.

Green Bay is poorly managed. They are going to get fisted on any deal.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:59 AM   #1265
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Of course it's better. You have the QB, you can put pieces around him easier than you can add an MVP QB to a team.
What pieces can they put around him without having a 1st round pick until 2024?
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:59 AM   #1266
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Is Bradley Chubb an all pro type pass rusher? Is Jeudy that at WR?

Maybe they are and you just can't let them go. I dunno. But if you can trade a pass rusher and a WR for a HOF MVP QB in his prime, I'd think you'd be pretty interested.

The issue is just Rodgers age. Are we at "fall off a cliff" time?
Chubb is not a guy that I'm interested in trading, not with Von being in his situation. Jeudy... same deal, why give up on him as a #2 behind Sutton at this point?

And, sure... if Rodgers were 32, go for it maybe. But, that's not the scenario.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:00 AM   #1267
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What pieces can they put around him without having a 1st round pick until 2024?
And, that's the problem with also giving up a Jeudy and/or Chubb.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:00 AM   #1268
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LOL. Is this a Chiefs fan post from 1993-20017?

Good luck man.
Imagine how good Alex Smith would be without Justin Houston, Eric Berry (when healthy) and all of those guys.

You're just not looking at this rationally.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:01 AM   #1269
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Is Bradley Chubb an all pro type pass rusher? Is Jeudy that at WR?

Maybe they are and you just can't let them go. I dunno. But if you can trade a pass rusher and a WR for a HOF MVP QB in his prime, I'd think you'd be pretty interested.

The issue is just Rodgers age. Are we at "fall off a cliff" time?
He turned in his best throw times near ever last year. I don't think that's a near term concern.

Jeudy I would trade in a heartbeat...Chubb might be iffy. But Chubb hasn't really accomplished anything either. He did put up 14 sacks as a rookie, but part of that is the scheme being run where he's showcased.

QB is the most important position on the field. If you can get the league MVP...you do that. Not any any cost, but within reason.
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Chubb is not a guy that I'm interested in trading, not with Von being in his situation. Jeudy... same deal, why give up on him as a #2 behind Sutton at this point?

And, sure... if Rodgers were 32, go for it maybe. But, that's not the scenario.
If they give up 3 consecutive first round picks, it's entirely likely that Rodgers will be RETIRED before they have another one.
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What pieces can they put around him without having a 1st round pick until 2024?
Free agency, the second round on?

They'll be good so those picks will be at the back end of the first either way.

I don't think the trade happens, Denver won't give up that much.

But if they don't, they'll be right in that 9/10 win ceiling for a while as they don't have a QB. So either way works for me.
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He turned in his best throw times near ever last year. I don't think that's a near term concern.

Jeudy I would trade in a heartbeat...Chubb might be iffy. But Chubb hasn't really accomplished anything either. He did put up 14 sacks as a rookie, but part of that is the scheme being run where he's showcased.

QB is the most important position on the field. If you can get the league MVP...you do that. Not any any cost, but within reason.
The prices being thrown around simply aren't "within reason". That's the issue.
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Free agency, the second round on?

They'll be good so those picks will be at the back end of the first either way.

I don't think the trade happens, Denver won't give up that much.

But if they don't, they'll be right in that 9/10 win ceiling for a while as they don't have a QB. So either way works for me.
They're not a contender with Rodgers if they give up that much to get him. I don't care how good he is.

He might get them to 11 or 12 wins but they're not winning in the playoffs with Rodgers and a bunch of nobody's. GB can't win and they have the best WR in the game arguably.
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Imagine how good Alex Smith would be without Justin Houston, Eric Berry (when healthy) and all of those guys.

You're just not looking at this rationally.
And he had all those guys and made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs once.

If we're shooting for the Alex Smith Chiefs tenure, sure. Go for it.

You aren't winning a SB with that type of Qb in today's NFL. So you have a choice.
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And he had all those guys and made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs once.

If we're shooting for the Alex Smith Chiefs tenure, sure. Go for it.

You aren't winning a SB with that type of Qb in today's NFL. So you have a choice.
You aren't winning a SB with Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of 2nd-tier players. See also: Green Bay.
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