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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Titty Meat · 09-23-2011, 02:07 PM

People still listen to KK?

Dayze · 09-23-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

People still listen to KK?

only when we want to hear the Racin' Boys and Smoke & Fire informericals.

Pants · 09-23-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

People still listen to KK?

You would have loved the Boonville caller.

Frazod · 09-23-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian

This has been my biggest complaint thus far....everyone wants to trust Texas. They haven't given us any reason to thus far, or any indication that they could be trusted in the future.

Anybody who wants to trust Texas has apparently never heard the parable about the fox and the scorpion.

**alnorth** · 09-23-2011, 02:17 PM

http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tal...g-12-moves-on/

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Chris Level, who covers Texas Tech for Rivals.com reported earlier that Tech president Guy Bailey told him and Aaron Dickens earlier today that Mizzou's Brady Deaton told him that MU did not have an offer from the SEC and would remain in the Big 12.

Not that I'm going to automatically believe the output of a telephone game where someone reported about something that was reported by a blogger who was reporting something he was told by the Tech president who was passing on something that he was told by Deaton, without confirmation. (Is that third-hand information or 4th-hand information?)

But, if Mizzou does not have an offer and fully intends to stay in the Big 12, then what was Deaton doing last night?

Garcia Bronco · 09-23-2011, 02:20 PM

There is no, nor was there, an offer to have MU join the SEC.

Titty Meat · 09-23-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I heard it's a bidding war between the SEC & B1G for MU.

Yea right.

duncan_idaho · 09-23-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tal...g-12-moves-on/

Not that I'm going to automatically believe the output of a telephone game where someone reported about something that was reported by a blogger who was reporting something he was told by the Tech president who was passing on something that he was told by Deaton, without confirmation. (Is that third-hand information or 4th-hand information?)

But, if Mizzou does not have an offer and fully intends to stay in the Big 12, then what was Deaton doing last night?

As Gabe was just saying on PowerMizzou, three potential options:

1) Texas Tech's pres is blowing smoke and trying to put pressure on Mizzou
2) Deaton did tell him there was no offer. Basically, Deaton lied/intentionally withheld full truth from Tech pres
3) Deaton made stuff up at the press conference, which would end up costing him job.

2 is the only one that makes sense to me.

Missouri does not have an offer in that the SEC does give out offers. What it sounds like Missouri has is indications that if they applied to the SEC, they would quickly be accepted.

It's splitting hairs, but there IS a difference there.

Great Expectations · 09-23-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

As Gabe was just saying on PowerMizzou, three potential options:

1) Texas Tech's pres is blowing smoke and trying to put pressure on Mizzou
2) Deaton did tell him there was no offer. Basically, Deaton lied/intentionally withheld full truth from Tech pres
3) Deaton made stuff up at the press conference, which would end up costing him job.

2 is the only one that makes sense to me.

Missouri does not have an offer in that the SEC does give out offers. What it sounds like Missouri has is indications that if they applied to the SEC, they would quickly be accepted.

It's splitting hairs, but there IS a difference there.

Deaton forgot that he can't pull the power play that Boren did to make Texas play fairly. I think he thought he could pull an OU. I also don't think trying that maneuver will cost him his job. He was doing it in MU's best interest, making GabeD look foolish isn't a fireable offense.

**alnorth** · 09-23-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Missouri does not have an offer in that the SEC does give out offers. What it sounds like Missouri has is indications that if they applied to the SEC, they would quickly be accepted.

Well, thats true with every conference, but its kind of like a Sadie Hawkins dance (no, this time YOU have to ask ME to the dance!), everyone still understands that you don't apply unless you've been given a green light.

Mosbonian · 09-23-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Well, thats true with every conference, but its kind of like a Sadie Hawkins dance (no, this time YOU have to ask ME to the dance!), everyone still understands that you don't apply unless you've been given a green light.

Evidently Al forgot about West Virginia...

Stewie · 09-23-2011, 03:23 PM

Who is OU's AD? Does he have a tie to MU? Is it possible that since OU lost its leverage that there were calls made to MU to take the torch? I think so.

beer bacon · 09-23-2011, 03:24 PM

New interim commish Chuck Neinas spoke to Tony Barnhardt today, and this is what he had to say:

Chuck Neinas on Missouri: "I believe Missouri would like to remain in the Big 12." Said UM Board of Curators "may have a different idea."

http://twitter.com/#!/MrCFB/status/117341234313433088

**ChiTown** · 09-23-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Who is OU's AD? Does he have a tie to MU? Is it possible that since OU lost its leverage that there were calls made to MU to take the torch? I think so.

He worked for the MU Athletic Department before taking the OU job as AD

Rams Fan · 09-23-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Who is OU's AD? Does he have a tie to MU? Is it possible that since OU lost its leverage that there were calls made to MU to take the torch? I think so.

Joe Castiglione is OU's AD. He was Mizzou's AD before Alden.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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beer bacon WHAT beer bacon's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO	New interim commish Chuck Neinas spoke to Tony Barnhardt today, and this is what he had to say: Chuck Neinas on Missouri: "I believe Missouri would like to remain in the Big 12." Said UM Board of Curators "may have a different idea." http://twitter.com/#!/MrCFB/status/117341234313433088
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