***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Nickhead]

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[petegz28]

NY has got to get shit figured out up there

[Three7s]

Every day, I keep hoping to see a decrease in the amount of cases, but instead, I find myself dropping my jaw at the new daily numbers. Just incredible.

On the bright side, the co-worker I had that got tested was negative, so that's a plus for me at least!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Three7s

Every day, I keep hoping to see a decrease in the amount of cases, but instead, I find myself dropping my jaw at the new daily numbers. Just incredible.

On the bright side, the co-worker I had that got tested was negative, so that's a plus for me at least!

The number of cases isn't that shocking. I mean we are talking right now about roughly 3% of the population having this and the vast majority of them are going to recover. We just got to hope it doesn't get much worse before it gets better

[KC Dan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Damnit man. ****, come on OTWP. Lets all say another prayer that he is able to post a message that he is recovering and doing better every damn day.

Prayers OTWR. Be well

[RINGLEADER]

So NY Post is reporting that NYC has 4,720 patients in hospitals and 850 in ICUs.

That’s around 17.7% of total reported infections in hospital and 3.2% in ICU.

I know there have been questions on these to data points so passing along. So far the hospitalizations are in that 15%-20% range with about the same range (down from the earlier 25% of hospitalizations) of those hospitalized needing ventilators.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by KC Dan

Prayers OTWR. Be well

This.

I hate this f’ing virus.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NY has got to get shit figured out up there

They’ve done better than most places early on but as long people are going out it will spread. And yes I understand not everyone can avoid the subway but it’s going to keep spreading as long as mass transit is running.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

This.

I hate this f’ing virus.

Yeah for real. **** this thing.

[TLO]

Can someone reach out to OTWP on social media?

[O.city]

It takes about 10 days for the distancing and steps taken to take effect

So hopefully we will start seeing some effects in a week or so

Probably won’t peak til the middle or end of April though

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Can someone reach out to OTWP on social media?

I sent him a message haven’t gotten a response yet

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

I sent him a message haven’t gotten a response yet

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

They’ve done better than most places early on but as long people are going out it will spread. And yes I understand not everyone can avoid the subway but it’s going to keep spreading as long as mass transit is running.

I don't want this lock down shit. I don't. I don't like it. I think it's wrong and in the long run is worse than a virus. That being said, if the rest of the country is on a level half of or even more less than half of NY you seriously have to start looking at banning travel in and out of NY.

I don't want to say that but it's ****ing true. This isn't a nursing home situation like WA state was. If they won't distance and stay home then sorry but you can **** each other and not everyone else.

It's tough cause of their living conditions, I get it. But when they are responsible for literally half the pain the other 49 states are feeling then WTF?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

There's no way he passes without coming here and telling us all to **** off first.