***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by kgrund

At want point do normal people get to "OK I am good on toilet paper and paper towels". Unreal.

My store is just not restocking that stuff. Meats either. Or canned goods. Or pasta.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by kgrund

At want point do normal people get to "OK I am good on toilet paper and paper towels". Unreal.

You would think it has to be soon.

JFC how much of that shit can people keep buying.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

We haven't been able to find napkins in 2 weeks, so that's irritating.

Paper towels will work, but it's still just strange.

The Mrs does the shopping for that stuff so I have no idea what is and isn't available but she has mentioned not being able to find any specific thing yet. I did check the hall closet at our Kleenex supply out of curiosity and there's 8 boxes in there.

What's driving me nuts is not being able to find the Lysol sanitizing wipes anywhere, I keep a bottle in the Jeep to clean my hands every time I leave somewhere and I'm burning through them fast.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by eDave

My store is just not restocking that stuff. Meats either. Or canned goods. Or pasta.

You need me to send you some stuff? I am dead serious.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Think this was posted already, but just heard a podcast that quoted a bunch of doctors stating taking Ibuprofen/Advil absolutely makes this virus deadly.

It accelerates it into pnuemonia.

DON'T TAKE IBUPROFEN

Does ibuprofen (sold under Advil, NeoProfen, etc.) make COVID-19 (coronavirus) symptoms worse? Dr. Keith Armitage, Medical Director, UH Roe Green Center for Travel Medicine & Global Health, explains. #coronavirus #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/4HAOpWCxMR

— University Hospitals (@UHhospitals) March 24, 2020

Hmmm.. Saw a Dr on tv this morning say that this isn’t true..

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

You would think it has to be soon.

JFC how much of that shit can people keep buying.

People must be planning on using it as currency after society collapses.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm out of body wash. Hope that shit ain't gone.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I keep a bottle in the Jeep to clean my hands every time I leave somewhere and I'm burning through them fast.

Better than nothing

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

The Mrs does the shopping for that stuff so I have no idea what is and isn't available but she has mentioned not being able to find any specific thing yet. I did check the hall closet at our Kleenex supply out of curiosity and there's 8 boxes in there.

What's driving me nuts is not being able to find the Lysol sanitizing wipes anywhere, I keep a bottle in the Jeep to clean my hands every time I leave somewhere and I'm burning through them fast.

Can your wife sew?

Mine made some cloth face masks that hospital workers were posting on the facebook marketplace that they needed badly, she traded 10 of them for some disinfecting wipes and spray as apparently the nurse had access to lots of that.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

You need me to send you some stuff? I am dead serious.

Interesting choice of words

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

People must be planning on using it as currency after society collapses.

In 2013 the video game state of decay..predicted this...

[tk13]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Why was it reported as major breaking news across all media outlets (not just sports) when Gobert tested positive for COVID-19?

Apparently the follow up part of the story, when the majority of athletes/celebrities who test positive for COVID-19 end up with minor/no symptoms (consistent with 80% of the population who get COVID-19), is not as newsworthy.

This ain't rocket science, because the game was cancelled and the rest of the NBA season was postponed. That's not newsworthy? It was literally the event that changed the landscape of how it was treated in this country, and started the trend of sporting and other events being cancelled. He's going to be remembered for that long after all this is over.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Better than nothing

Do those have alcohol in them? I actually have hand sanitizer but don't like using it because due to the work I do I almost always have tiny cuts on my hands and well...I know where every one of them are when I use it.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by tk13

This ain't rocket science, because the game was cancelled and the rest of the NBA season was postponed. That's not newsworthy? It was literally the event that changed the landscape of how it was treated in this country, and started the trend of sporting and other events being cancelled. He's going to be remembered for that long after all this is over.

Good chance had it not happened, sporting events would have continued a while longer and who knows what that would have caused.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Can your wife sew?

Mine made some cloth face masks that hospital workers were posting on the facebook marketplace that they needed badly, she traded 10 of them for some disinfecting wipes and spray as apparently the nurse had access to lots of that.

No, she can't lol. But maybe I can trade a box of Kleenex for some.