***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Monticore

But HCQ has a a anti-inflammatory properties.

Like I said, seems like some bullshit my uncle would post on FB.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Sorry, I hadn't seen any of this.

But it does seem like you should stop taking Ibuprofen.

It seems like the counterargument to this is "We can't be sure ibuprofen actually caused this!"

Which, to me, is both accurate and stupid.

Just like the anti-HCQ argument. "Well... anecdotal evidence isn't proof!" yes, but it doesn't HURT you to avoid ibuprofen in the meantime.

if I get kicked in the balls by three guys in blue hats, I don't give a **** that it's not proven guys in blue hats want to kick me in the balls. It could be a coincidence.

But I'm not coming anywhere near a blue hat for awhile.

[O.city]

Remdisivir will probably end up being the best bet. There are a few others they’ve had good in vitro success with that will get approved for human trials at some point

Best bet is gonna be the development of prophylactic antibodies. Maybe by this summer

[notorious]

GOD DAMNIT. THE MISINFORMATION NEEDS TO GET ****ED.

[Titty Meat]

He went ahead and shared it on FB

[saphojunkie]

Did we ever figure out if eggs are good for you or not

[Hammock Parties]

Well, I'm still going to stop taking it, per sapho's post.

This doesn't seem settled at all, and the WHO was wrong from the beginning.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by notorious

GOD DAMNIT. THE MISINFORMATION NEEDS TO GET ****ED.

People are doing a decent job in the thread. It's super difficult to figure out how to moderate it, though. We're not experts in this stuff, so it's hard to tell what is so far off that it should be deleted.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

He went ahead and shared it on FB

It seems like the best thing to do is to stop taking it to be on the safe side.

I ain't ****ing around. I don't want any of my old people taking ibuprofen.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Sorry, I hadn't seen any of this.

But it does seem like you should stop taking Ibuprofen.

look at the ****ing dates before you post shit. and then do a real easy google search.


otherwise you wont be posting in this thread any more.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaFace

People are doing a decent job in the thread. It's super difficult to figure out how to moderate it, though. We're not experts in this stuff, so it's hard to tell what is so far off that it should be deleted.

By all means delete my posts - I panicked a bit because someone sent me a text.

HOWEVER...the ibuprofen issue doesn't seem settled to me at all.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

even the medical doctors on here don't know anything about this yet. The greatest minds in the world are collectively working on this and we still don't have definitive answers.

Stay home and wait for more info, I guess. It's gonna take awhile.

Yes I know lol but some are on here saying don’t take anti-inflammatory drugs but to take HCQ which is one. I agree we need to wait , all the ER doctors I have talked to have said the trials so far were full of holes and they were going to have to wait for more data.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by notorious

GOD DAMNIT. THE MISINFORMATION NEEDS TO GET ****ED.

Come on now. What fun would that be?

[RollChiefsRoll]

Clay is basically your grandma forwarding spam.

RE: FWD: RE: RE: FWD: YOU WON’T BELIEVE THIS! Ibuprofen — the silent killer!!!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Did we ever figure out if eggs are good for you or not

Yes there are most likely probably parts if not all of the egg that are maybe good for you in moderation I think.