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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.
See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP. Duncan's latest mock Site The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack. Draft slot: 29 Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey... 1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue. 1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota. 2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia. 2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn. 3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State. 3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State. 4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati. 4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee Scenario 1 Debrief: So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR. This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29... Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds. 1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. 2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State. 2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. 3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida. 3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State Scenario 2 Debrief: I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner. I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do. Scenario 3: Same movements as #2 1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State. 2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State. 2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. 3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State. 4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah Scenario 3 Debrief: This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits. In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop. Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks. Older mocks
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04-26-2022, 06:54 PM | #1203 |
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Been working trades ups to target DT. If we can't get to the top tier edges...maybe grabbing a top tier DT is the next best thing.
16. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia 40. Josh Paschal, ED, Kentucky 50. Sam Williams, ED, Ole Miss 94. Kyle Phillips, WR, UCLA 103. Damarri Mathis, CB, Pitt 109. Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio St 121. Keontay Ingram, RB, USC 233. Josh Williams, CB, Fayetteville St. 244. Noah Ellis, DT, Idaho 259. Marquee Bell, S, FAMU 259. Vederian Lowe, T, Illinois |
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04-26-2022, 08:31 PM | #1204 |
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The only thing about taking Ojabo in the first is that you are sort of forced, in my opinion, to double up.
I don't mind doubling up; in fact, I prefer it to be honest. DE's are expensive, and better to grow your own. I'm not crazy about being forced to do so, and do it early, but if you're already planning it, it makes sense. |
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04-26-2022, 08:35 PM | #1206 | |
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So yeah, Ojabo fits. Cam Thomas is a pretty safe bet to be at least a decent complimentary player I think. I'd be in. |
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04-26-2022, 09:05 PM | #1208 |
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What is it about him that would make you pass on a CB, WR, or maybe even a S in the first round that would fill an immediate need also?
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04-26-2022, 09:12 PM | #1209 |
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04-26-2022, 09:43 PM | #1210 |
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I get that. It's just hard for me to have faith that he'll be that same talent post achilles. I'd be extremely surprised if someone wise took him in the first, but I also wouldn't lose any sleep.
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04-26-2022, 10:09 PM | #1211 |
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I was worried about him before the achilles
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04-26-2022, 11:33 PM | #1212 |
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If Ojabo didn’t tear his Achilles, I think he would go top 5. I like him better than anyone outside of Hutchinson. And even that’s open for debate. Ojabo is going to be a really special player if he’s able to rehab and regain most of his explosiveness.
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04-27-2022, 12:04 AM | #1213 |
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04-27-2022, 01:12 AM | #1214 |
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Regarding the conversation we had in the other thread about trading up for Williams and Thibs…this is what the draft could look like with a little moving around after the 2 big trades. The moves essentially take away our first and the comp third next year, as well.
I moved down with Buffalo to add another pick dropping from 50 to 57 to get Hall and then moved a little to get players I liked. If you believe Thibs and Williams will be great players, that might be what it looks like for us to get them and what else we could do in the rest of the draft after the move ups. |
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04-27-2022, 04:36 AM | #1215 |
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The league would brick itself if KC landed 2 top-10 prospects. Next year's 32nd overall pick be damned.
That's gotta be damn near unprecedented, for a team to come out of nowhere essentially and pick twice in the top 10. |
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