***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Link? What exactly do you think I claimed?

You guys are killing me.I said it would help if he had proof of what he claimed not you.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Text I just got from my mom:



This is ****ing wild to me.

"I don't meet testing criteria for the state."

Shouldn't we be testing anyone with these symptoms at this point, especially when they're testing NEGATIVE for Influenza and work in a hospital that has had a positive patient??

If her fever has subsided I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure she's ok.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I have no idea what is or is not working in China and either do you.

Yeah, it's not like we have your own quote from like 1hr ago...

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

There is a lot of information out there that states that in China the best results for treatment have come from high dose vitamin C drips.

[TLO]

Meanwhile, in the rest of the thread.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

What health professionals?

I have high end personal physicians and the advise they give is quite different that the main stream BS you post on here consistently. I also almost never get sick. My whole family is like that. I will go with what they say and is working as opposed to what some self-proclaimed football scientist is cutting and posting on the internet. Thanks for your concern.

The least you can do is quit twisting everything I post. To reiterate:

I have no idea what is or is not working in China and either do you.
I have no idea if colloidal silver helps or not. I have never seen anyone who uses it turn silver though like something out of science fiction movie like the article you posted claimed.

Argryria is a known side effect of silver ingestion. Shut up.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by TLO

If her fever has subsided I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure she's ok.

I'm not worried. She's fine.

I'm annoyed that someone exhibiting symptoms of the virus who could have been exposed to it is not being tested.

The actual number of cases is (and this is not news) probably in the tens of thousands at this point but we wouldn't know that because we only seem to be testing those on their death beds.

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

This is an overreaction...

Florida Department of Health now advising all individuals who have traveled internationally (anywhere internationally, even places that don't have any COVID-19 cases) to self-isolate for 14 days following their return date to the US.

Basically there's no places that don't have any Covid19 cases. Theres places where they do screenings and places where they don't, and you hardly find what you don't search.
This virus is not something you can just pretend it doesn't exist, and it is NOT a "bad" flu either.
They suspended pro soccer championships, formula 1 etc.
Stock markets dropped up to 11% today in EU and riots in prisons in Italy.
It's either everyone's gone crazy in EU or we are underestimating the problem.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

Basically there's no places that don't have any Covid19 cases. Theres places where they do screenings and places where they don't, and you hardly find what you don't search.
This virus is not something you can just pretend it doesn't exist, and it is NOT a "bad" flu either.
They suspended pro soccer championships, formula 1 etc.
Stock markets dropped up to 11% today in EU and riots in prisons in Italy.
It's either everyone's gone crazy in EU or we are underestimating the problem.

Interesting

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

I'm starting to think this guy might not know what he's talking about.

Get ready for a lot more of this kind of thing on social media.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

What health professionals?

I have high end personal physicians and the advise they give is quite different that the main stream BS you post on here consistently. I also almost never get sick. My whole family is like that. I will go with what they say and is working as opposed to what some self-proclaimed football scientist is cutting and posting on the internet. Thanks for your concern.

The least you can do is quit twisting everything I post. To reiterate:

I have no idea what is or is not working in China and either do you.
I have no idea if colloidal silver helps or not. I have never seen anyone who uses it turn silver though like something out of science fiction movie like the article you posted claimed.

There is no data to suggest colloidal silver works, so I would never advocate that it does. The issue is that you make cloaked statements about things like Vitamin C working, and then you get called on it and back track.
You said that you heard Vitamin C is one of the most effective treatments in China, but can't even say where you heard it, and now are saying you have no idea if it works.
What makes your physician a "high end physician?" Why do their recommendations differ from the medical consensus? Why is it a good thing that they recommend things that are different than what evidence based medicine suggests?

I'm glad that you hardly get sick, but that anecdotal report means nothing to prove or disprove the medical advice you receive. There are plenty of people without "high end physicians" that hardly ever get sick either.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Get ready for a lot more of this kind of thing on social media.

Man, this is a brilliant concept for a novel.

[Skyy God]

Shocking Big Daddy is promoting quackery......

[srvy]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Antibiotics are effective for pneumonia, just not viral pneumonia

Thanks did not know this.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Get ready for a lot more of this kind of thing on social media.

Do you think anybody would buy that crazy shit? If so we are in big trouble !

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Do you think anybody would buy that crazy shit? If so we are in big trouble !

It happens on a daily basis.

My grandparents were convinced Obama was an ISIS insurgent for years.