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View Poll Results: So. Was it Tom or Bill? | |||
Tom Terrific | 47 | 37.60% | |
Hoodie Bill | 16 | 12.80% | |
Unsure | 18 | 14.40% | |
Who cares about that poverty level team in Foxboro? | 44 | 35.20% | |
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10-26-2020, 05:02 PM | #2 | |
In Search of a Life
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10-26-2020, 07:00 PM | #3 |
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So because they were under .500 (7-9 mind you) Chris godwin and Mike Evans aren't great wrs? Barrett, jpp. Vea, suh aren't good players because the team finished a game below. 500?
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10-26-2020, 07:10 PM | #4 |
Consuming CP souls
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Well, you aren't committing 40 turnovers with Brady. Talent means jack shit with poor execution
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10-26-2020, 07:56 PM | #5 |
'Tis my eye!
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10-26-2020, 07:59 PM | #6 |
In Search of a Life
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10-26-2020, 08:15 PM | #7 | |
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10-26-2020, 08:15 PM | #8 |
Three-Pat
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^ This. They finished 7-9 IN SPITE of Winston's 30 INTs. If he threw half as many as he did they are at worst a 10-6 team more likely a 11-5 or 12-4 and making the playoffs. To think their success is all Brady and they are somehow devoid of talent is ridiculous. He has made them better no doubt but they weren't scrubs before.
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10-31-2020, 04:58 PM | #9 |
In Search of a Life
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They weren't good enough to get the team above .500 with Jameis Winston. QBs matter. The Patriots are getting a stark reminder of that fact.
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10-26-2020, 08:29 AM | #10 |
Fish are scared of me
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Just look at the Colts before PM and after PM. Same with the Donkeys. PM made Elway look like a great GM. Now he's a laughing stock.
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10-26-2020, 08:57 AM | #11 |
'Tis my eye!
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Again, just so it's clear:
QB's are the cake. Coaches are the frosting. QB's are the ribs. Coaches are the BBQ sauce. To be GREAT, you have to have both. But both the cake and ribs can be good without frosting or sauce. Without the cake or ribs, the frosting and sauce are virtually useless. |
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10-26-2020, 11:42 AM | #12 | |
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Nobody would put McNabb in the HOF and Andy took that QB and team to 5 NFC championship games and a SB, losing to the best dynasty in history. It’s possible to win without the elite QB but it’s really damn rare. Surprisingly the Ravens have done it twice. |
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10-26-2020, 12:36 PM | #13 | |
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Guys like Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson went to their first Super Bowls on teams that were all about top rushing attacks and great defenses and ranked in the 31/32 range in pass attempts. Nothing like the gunslingers they are now. |
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10-26-2020, 01:15 PM | #14 | |
'Tis my eye!
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It's about winning championships. Bill, just like Andy, can field a good team without a HOF QB. Neither of them win a Super Bowl without a HOF QB. |
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10-26-2020, 01:28 PM | #15 |
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He had one winning season with Cassel and a loaded team and one winning season in Cleveland. 5 losing seasons and he's on his way to another.
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