***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

China will ban most foreigners from entering country

China will close its borders to most foreigners starting Saturday, the government announced Thursday, amid continued concerns over rising imported cases of novel coronavirus.

Foreign nationals currently holding Chinese visas or residency permits will be temporarily banned from entering the country until further notice, according to a statement from the foreign ministry and the national immigration authority.

The government is also suspending all visa-free transit and visa-on-landing programs. People holding diplomatic passports are exempted from the new rule.

Foreign nationals who must visit China out of necessity need to apply for new visas, and holders of Chinese visas issued after Thursday will be allowed into the country, the statement added.

oh no no no **** you china

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hospitals are debating a universal “Do not Resuscitate” order for infected patients. If you code, your heart stops, they will just let the infected patient die or come back on their own. No effort to revive the patient.

The reason is when you try to revive patients, lots of fluid exposure from the patient occurs. That will only make the equipment shortage worse.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hospi...-shortages.amp

Headline: "Hospitals weigh blanket DNR orders"

Last line: "I don’t believe that is necessarily the right approach. So we have decided not to go in that direction. What we are doing is what can be done safely.”

****in' media.

At least this part makes sense... "By the time you get all gowned up and double-gloved the patient is going to be dead".... and the patients don't have to agree to the DNR.

[BleedingRed]

Belgium joins Bahrain in affirming coronavirus treatment touted by Trump is working for patients. It is ordering doctors to preserve the hydroxychloroquine pills for COVID-19 patients most in need. https://t.co/yu4bG2mlOR

— John Solomon (@jsolomonReports) March 26, 2020

[Donger]

Really BR? Jesus...

[Mecca]

If any of you all rent from SBD watch out...

https://view.bbsv3.net/bbext/?p=land...6-d7cd1fed9cc7

Message from the CEO of a local rental company during global pandemic- "Paying rent should be your top priority; you can defer all your other bills. We will not be taken advantage of."

So be aware how they feel about this. Boys and girls rent>food.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

Really BR? Jesus...

**** off you lazy bastard the links exist inside the tweet

https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-ne...t-coronavirus/

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

**** off you lazy bastard the links exist inside the tweet

https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-ne...t-coronavirus/

Lazy? All I'm doing is reading Solomon's words in his tweet. That's bad enough.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

At this point, the amount of success I have personally experienced and seen with hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin is undeniable. However, it is no longer about saving lives. #coronacure #coronavirus #Hydroxychloroquine Her’s my FB post pic.twitter.com/rXXYGeXspD

— Dr Jay Calvert MD (@JayCalvertMD) March 26, 2020

This is gonna save our ass.

Deaths down from 247 to 92 today.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

At this point, the amount of success I have personally experienced and seen with hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin is undeniable. However, it is no longer about saving lives. #coronacure #coronavirus #Hydroxychloroquine Her’s my FB post pic.twitter.com/rXXYGeXspD

— Dr Jay Calvert MD (@JayCalvertMD) March 26, 2020

Dr Jay Calvert MD
@JayCalvertMD
Dr Jay Calvert .Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon who performs rhinoplasty, breast implants, facelifts, and breast augmentation. http://drcalvert.com

[KCUnited]

"AHHHH DAMMIT! WE LOST ANOTHER ONE!"

"Karen get worldometer.info on the line so they can update the site"

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is gonna save our ass.

Deaths down from 247 to 92 today.

Once again, this website isn't a real time tally of deaths.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Really BR? Jesus...

This cure works, man.

Rejoice.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is gonna save our ass.

Deaths down from 247 to 92 today.

Since 4 out of 10 million doctors agree it must be true.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This cure works, man.

Rejoice.

I wish we knew this for sure.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Donger

Lazy? All I'm doing is reading Solomon's words in his tweet. That's bad enough.

It's a false headline as well as being factually inaccurate. Belgium has not reported success using Chloroquinine, as they're still undergoing trial tests.

Also from the article:

The drug, marketed under the name Plaquenil, has entered clinical trials in France and the United States, and its results against Covid-19 are promising, according to Le Vif/L’Express on Tuesday. Belgium has also started clinical trials for experimental treatments against the coronavirus.

“The FAMHP has already taken measures. Within a few days, each hospital receives hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 patients. 64 kg = good for 22,000 patients. A second batch of chloroquine phosphate will follow.”

“Use of (hydroxy)chloroquine is off-label and with risks (interactions, serious side effects), no effect has yet been demonstrated for curing COVID-19 and certainly not preventative.

Pay attention with azithromycin: no proven efficacy yet against COVID-19 and numerous risks!”