***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Donger

But still testing enough to come back with 5,000 new cases a day. That's some pretty chilling math...

That was my point this morning...

Their daily deaths are still at 14. Since before noon.

We’re going over 250 today I’m betting

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Donger

Wells Fargo, US Bank, Citi and JP Morgan Chase have all agreed to waive mortgage payments for people affected by the coronavirus. An additional 200 state charter banks and credit unions made similar commitments, he said.

Too big to fail banks.

The smaller banks probably won't be able to do this.. guess I'm hoping they moved mortgage notes off their books.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by ChiefZilla

prayers for those with jury duty

Mine was cancelled. They basically closed the courthouse and held off all trials for like a month. It's gonna be hell when they open those floodgates...

[TLO]

It's a little therapeutic to just blurt this shit out. I don't want to hijack the thread by any means, but this feels good.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

It's a little therapeutic to just blurt this shit out. I don't want to hijack the thread by any means, but this feels good.

Out of curiosity, do you have a therapist? A good one can work wonders.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by TLO

Sure, why not.

I'm 31.
I'm in the "slightly overweight" category, though I'm much closer to "normal" than "obese"
I live in the Midwest, about 45 miles north of KC.
I've smoked about a pack a day for 8 years. I've recently cut down to less than half a pack a day. (Might be why I'm a little extra anxious)
I take a variety of medications for anxiety and depression, and 1 medication for high triglyceride levels. (Vescepa - just a really potent fish oil)
I take propranolol for my anxiety, which has the added benifit of keeping my blood pressure and pulse in a very nice range. (Never been diagnosed with high blood pressure)
No diabetes.
No other medical conditions.

Key takeaways:

1.) .2% of all coronavirus deaths have been in your age range. And that's just looking at people who actually died, so it's basically .2% of the 4% of people who died after getting this. And remember in that number are a lot of people with underlying conditions. It's basically impossible for you to die from this.

2.) As far as United States goes, you live in nearly the ideal place. You are in the midwest, decently far from any major city (but not too far), and the closest one to you has documented a grand total of 50ish cases to date. (About .002% of it's population.) It's really unlikely you'll even catch this disease. Not that it will ultimately matter at all if you do.

Relax. You'll be fine.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I'm, the source for that was a bunch of posts on Facebook. That's some top notch journalism.

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk

And stock photos of ambulances!

This is what the ambulance might have looked like...

[chinaski]

Garcetti is saying Los Angeles will be locked down for at least 2 months, and be prepared for longer. He doesn't sound optimistic at all.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Out of curiosity, do you have a therapist? A good one can work wonders.

I do, but she's unfortunately not seeing patients in person right now. I am scheduled for a phone session with her because her office is apparently in the technology stone age.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Garcetti is saying Los Angeles will be locked down for at least 2 months, and be prepared for longer. He doesn't sound optimistic at all.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Out of curiosity, do you have a therapist? A good one can work wonders.

Out of curiosity, have you talked to your therapist yet about banning me from your SPACE EXPLORATION MAEGATHREAD?

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by TLO

It's a little therapeutic to just blurt this shit out. I don't want to hijack the thread by any means, but this feels good.

Read it somewhere. Found it in my "git ur shizzle togehter" notes. kind of works I suppose.
We are all in this together. Breath deep.

Be totally empty,
embrace the tranquility of peace.
Watch the workings of all creation,
observe how endings become beginnings.”

All creatures in the universe
return to the point where they began.
Returning to the source is tranquility
meaning submitting to what is and what is to be

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Garcetti is saying Los Angeles will be locked down for at least 2 months, and be prepared for longer. He doesn't sound optimistic at all.

oaklandhater just jihp.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Garcetti is saying Los Angeles will be locked down for at least 2 months, and be prepared for longer. He doesn't sound optimistic at all.

At what point do people just pack up and move to a place with less hysterical people running the show?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Garcetti is saying Los Angeles will be locked down for at least 2 months, and be prepared for longer. He doesn't sound optimistic at all.

The governor announced a 90 day forbearance on mortgages without any impact on credit for almost all banks.

They're really expecting us to get hit hard.