***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by loochy

Did you even read it? It only had 30 patients and its not like it was ineffective,it's just that patients in both groups recovered. More will be required to see if it was a fluke.

The Study was done by China, I can't think of any reason China wouldnt want the US to figure out a effective treatment for the virus they started.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

They are attention whores......... But they sure as shit are not millennials .... Oh god I sound like a boomer now

Isn't this fun!

Millennials may have been planking on toilet seats but god damn it we never licked them.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Los Angeles has stopped testing altogether so it's extremely unlikely we'll ever know how many are and were infected, unless those people are admitted to ER's and given treatment.

It's like chasing a rainbow.

My sister went back to Australia 10 days ago.5 people were confirmed to have it on her flight sitting right in front and behind her.
She is on quarantine showing no symptoms. My wife has been working at the airport full time in International since this began and has certainly been exposed many times. My sons school had an outbreak a month ago in which the symptoms matched identically. Pretty sure it's been in the bay area for quite awhile now. Time to get what we need medically to address those that need it and move along already and open the economy back up.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

which is the right thing to do I think, specifically with the knowledge that hydroxychloroquine is now being used as a possible treatment. Those who have mild symptoms should get the medicine and sent home.

Hopefully we would test AFTER their prescriptions are complete to see test if it is a effective treatment.

In my understanding, not many people are being treated with this on an outpatient basis.

Would you start treating prior to test results? In many health systems people with mild symptoms are not even being tested.

[RINGLEADER]

yep

[dirk digler]

California is testing. Just maybe slow to report.

UPDATE: CA has tested almost 67,000 people for #COVID19.

2535 have tested positive. 37 of those were people under 17. 51% were between ages of 18-49.

This disease can impact anyone. Stay home. Practice social and physical distancing. Take this seriously.

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) March 25, 2020

[Donger]

has NY enacted the same testing "halt" that CA has? Surely the ERs in NY are even more crowded than CA.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

California is testing. Just maybe slow to report.

UPDATE: CA has tested almost 67,000 people for #COVID19.

2535 have tested positive. 37 of those were people under 17. 51% were between ages of 18-49.

This disease can impact anyone. Stay home. Practice social and physical distancing. Take this seriously.

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) March 25, 2020

Thanks for that, dirk. Cali numbers were a bright spot. Guess they still are, cautiously.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Donger

has NY enacted the same testing "halt" that CA has? Surely the ERs in NY are even more crowded than CA.

Yes.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by wazu

Yes.

But still testing enough to come back with 5,000 new cases a day. That's some pretty chilling math...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by mac459

He was still building the office and when all this hit some other investors, started calling. People with money to be okay were calling him freaking out and wanting to pull their money out and saying they didn’t want to stay in.



He was setting up a small over the road trucking company. Had the shop built, was almost done with the office, and entire yard/parking lot. Guess he had some contracts in the works with a few companies. So I think he and everyone else would have been ok, but the rich people lost their shit and needed their money back.


After seeing what my friend had invested compared to the rich assholes, they were less than half of him. So it’s very frustrating.

Figure out who these investors are and publicly list their names, addresses and places of work.

[Discuss Thrower]

#COVID19 in #KansasCity @KCMO

Four are in the hospital. #StayHomeKC pic.twitter.com/O7WaztV3vi

— KCMO Health Dept (@KCMOHealthDept) March 25, 2020

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

California is testing. Just maybe slow to report.

In Los Angeles, the ER's were instructed not to test anyone showing symptoms and to treat them as infected.

Maybe that will change once millions of kits are available.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by loochy

Did you even read it? It only had 30 patients and its not like it was ineffective,it's just that patients in both groups recovered. More will be required to see if it was a fluke.

And it doesn't appear to have been combined with the azithromycin, which would mirror the results of one of the french studies that ALSO said that the HC was of marginal effectiveness on its own but seemed to demonstrate much stronger returns when combined with Z-Pack.

The problem is that the 'why' is still up for debate.

But the 'everyone panic!' crowd wants to shit on every potential positive development the second a single potential issue shows up and then claim that all of our kids are going to die after a couple of facebook posts.

The wild swings dependent exclusively ont he tenor of the news being reported is beyond the pale.

[carlos3652]

World wide death toll for today around the same level that is was yesterday... hopefully it holds