***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

if you think every thing is gonna be back to normal by easter I got some prime real estate in Florida I'd like to sell you go chiefs.

I think it is going to depend on the location. New York and NJ certainly won't be but a lot of areas in the country might be doing good enough to ease some restrictions. Dr Fauci hinted at that today when asked about Trumps Easter date and if anyone knows what he is talking about it is him.

Still going to be a wait and see approach. A lot depends on how next couple weeks go, obviously.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by eDave

"the worst is over"

Good thing around here pretty much everyone knows better than to pay attention to Meat Peeker.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

In the past 3 days (counting today) the USA has added:

~ 29 236 confirmed cases (~10k per day).
~ 394‬ confirmed deaths (~ 130 per day).

So, yeah things are looking awful there. If the rates keeps increasing like this, the ICU's will reach their breaking point pretty soon and the number of deaths will without a doubt explode.

South is a ticking time bomb.


numbers gonna explode

So in my post yesterday I predicted, based on the lag in infection to hospitalization to death, that we’d have 216 deaths today.

We had 206.

This proves out an overall death rate of approximately 12%-13% of REPORTED infections.

Tomorrow will be approximately 342.

[BigRedChief]

Like most public officials he is confusing ventilators and Respirators. What they are producing is something similar to the N 95 mask. Ventilators rolling off the assembly line are more in the 3/6 month range before they even start building.

BREAKING: @Ford plans to build respirators, ventilators & face shields in Michigan in partnership with the UAW, GE Healthcare & 3M. Some details:

-1,000 respirators per month, using F-150 seat fans, portable battery packs & 3D printed parts

-100,000 face shields per week

— Michael Martinez (@MikeMartinez_AN) March 24, 2020

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I think it is going to depend on the location. New York and NJ certainly won't be but a lot of areas in the country might be doing good enough to ease some restrictions. Dr Fauci hinted at that today when asked about Trumps Easter date and if anyone knows what he is talking about it is him.

Still going to be a wait and see approach. A lot depends on how next couple weeks go obviously.

I want this to be true but the data doesn’t support it. Cases in NYC are rising at a slower rate in the day over day numbers but appear to be on a trajectory that will soon accelerate according to the state. California cases have tripled in two days.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I think it is going to depend on the location. New York and NJ certainly won't be but a lot of areas in the country might be doing good enough to ease some restrictions. Dr Fauci hinted at that today when asked about Trumps Easter date and if anyone knows what he is talking about it is him.

Still going to be a wait and see approach. A lot depends on how next couple weeks go, obviously.

What I can’t figure out is what the US is going to do when all these little numbers everywhere start multiplying.

I think they are taking this far too slowly and it’s going to take so many more weeks and lives to correct it once it takes hold.


At some point I still think we need a full shutdown for a least a few weeks.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

"the worst is over"

Bring on the Easter celebrations!

[loochy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

if you think every thing is gonna be back to normal by easter I got some prime real estate in Florida I'd like to sell you go chiefs.

I know, right? Hell, we're all going to be dead by then

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

What I can’t figure out is what the US is going to do when all these little numbers everywhere start multiplying.

I think they are taking this far too slowly and it’s going to take so many more weeks and lives to correct it once it takes hold.


At some point I still think we need a full shutdown for a least a few weeks.

Absent some other event that would interrupt the current rate of infection/spread this is true. We need to lock down for a month and completely restrict movement from city to city. The math needs a few more days to be borne out but if nothing changes we’re looking at approximately 3,800 deaths in the next week in the US.

The week after, if the growth continues at the current pace, there will be 20,000 more people dead.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

What I can’t figure out is what the US is going to do when all these little numbers everywhere start multiplying.

I think they are taking this far too slowly and it’s going to take so many more weeks and lives to correct it once it takes hold.


At some point I still think we need a full shutdown for a least a few weeks.

You may be able to afford that, but around half the country cannot. We can’t just shut the whole country down because you’re running low on your anxiety medicine. People have been dying in large numbers from invisible viruses since the beginning of time. Welcome to the world.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Absent some other event that would interrupt the current rate of infection/spread this is true. We need to lock down for a month and completely restrict movement from city to city. The math needs a few more days to be borne out but if nothing changes we’re looking at approximately 3,800 deaths in the next week in the US.

The week after, if the growth continues at the current pace, there will be 20,000 more people dead.

You 2 need to get a room and get the **** out.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

In the past 3 days (counting today) the USA has added:

~ 29 236 confirmed cases (~10k per day).
~ 394‬ confirmed deaths (~ 130 per day).

So, yeah things are looking awful there. If the rates keeps increasing like this, the ICU's will reach their breaking point pretty soon and the number of deaths will without a doubt explode.

South is a ticking time bomb.


numbers gonna explode

We already knew this

[TLO]

Think China will send us some ventilators? Though the instructions might be in Chinese, so that could get confusing.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

#CoronaBriefing

-An 18 year old died from the coronavirus in LA County on Tuesday, becoming one of the youngest victims in the United States

— Daniel Huynh COVID-19 Updates (@DanielHuynhNews) March 24, 2020

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

What I can’t figure out is what the US is going to do when all these little numbers everywhere start multiplying.

I think they are taking this far too slowly and it’s going to take so many more weeks and lives to correct it once it takes hold.


At some point I still think we need a full shutdown for a least a few weeks.

I agree with you that as far as limiting the damage this virus does lives wise that's definitely the right solution but like another poster said many Americans just can't afford that. They won't be able to pay their bills and could end up homeless.

It's a tough situation. Hopefully there is some type of middle ground that will work.