***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[oaklandhater]

Spain turns ice rink into makeshift morgue, death toll at least 2,696 @scottmclean reports https://t.co/wHNWrmE7CZ pic.twitter.com/ZWGlUj5kFO

— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) March 24, 2020

Jesus...

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

New York has a comparatively large and sophisticated health care system. A lot of those red states have a dearth of not only ICU beds, but even primary care providers. They can't sustain infection levels at the rate of NY, which is already faltering and quickly running out of PPE.

New York’s population is so high though that they are at a disadvantage to those smaller populations with regards to ICUs.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

LOOK AT ME

Best not too bud.

[TLO]

I wake up in the morning, check the news - figure we're doomed. Go to my office to try and determine the best way to keep my employees and clients safe. Worry about them for a while.
Check the news a little later - maybe see something promising. Feel a little better.
Check the news later and find something horrifying. Anxiety into a tailspin.
Feel okay at bedtime after my ambien - sleep well, but with odd coronavirus dreams.

This has been my life for the last month.

[oaklandhater]

In the past 3 days (counting today) the USA has added:

~ 29 236 confirmed cases (~10k per day).
~ 394‬ confirmed deaths (~ 130 per day).

So, yeah things are looking awful there. If the rates keeps increasing like this, the ICU's will reach their breaking point pretty soon and the number of deaths will without a doubt explode.

South is a ticking time bomb.


numbers gonna explode

[wazu]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

New York’s population is so high though that they are at a disadvantage to those smaller populations with regards to ICUs.

They are also all packed in together much tighter than those southern states have. Subways, stores, workplaces, everywhere. So much of it. Most of the time I think it's pretty awesome.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by wazu

They are also all packed in together much tighter than those southern states have. Subways, stores, workplaces, everywhere. So much of it. Most of the time I think it's pretty awesome.

they are also a big International city with travelers from all over the world entering into the US through NY.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

In the past 3 days (counting today) the USA has added:

~ 29 236 confirmed cases (~10k per day).
~ 394‬ confirmed deaths (~ 130 per day).

So, yeah things are looking awful there. If the rates keeps increasing like this, the ICU's will reach their breaking point pretty soon and the number of deaths will without a doubt explode.

South is a ticking time bomb.


numbers gonna explode

market soared today

we'll be fine

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

market soared today

we'll be fine

if you think every thing is gonna be back to normal by easter I got some prime real estate in Florida I'd like to sell you go chiefs.

[tk13]

I'm worried that's the next phase of this thing, getting into rural areas where healthcare can be an issue and then really doing some damage. I hope I'm wrong about that. We're so spread out as a country that it should help... but this thing seems to create hotspots and we haven't had one of those in a smaller city or town yet.

[KCUnited]

[Hammock Parties]

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

if you think every thing is gonna be back to normal by easter I got some prime real estate in Florida I'd like to sell you go chiefs.

you are a fearmongering buffoon

the worst is over

people poppin' pills and waking up 100

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

market soared today

we'll be fine

There's going to be ~30 million unemployed people on a permanent basis in a country that cannot compete globally.

We're ****ed.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

There's going to be ~30 million unemployed people on a permanent basis in a country that cannot compete globally.

We're ****ed.

"the worst is over"