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05-03-2021, 02:42 PM | #91 | |
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Pretty high up the list is that we couldn't get pressure on Brady. So to answer your question: they're not that much worse. Are they that much better? |
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05-03-2021, 02:43 PM | #92 | |
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Edit: But I swear to god, if our lack of investment at DE2 means we have to put Chris Jones there, then we're officially downgrading at two spots. |
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05-03-2021, 02:44 PM | #93 | |
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3. Also fair, but check my previous post on playing Jones at DE. I'm not a fan. |
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05-03-2021, 02:57 PM | #94 |
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you think maybe the fact that he's 6'2", 253 lbs. with 32" arms led the Chiefs to think he's not the greatest fit for a 4-3 DE? I mean there's no length, T. Rex arms, and he's light in the shorts. Looks like a 3-4 rushbacker to me. In KC I think he'd physically be limited to situational pass rusher.
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05-03-2021, 02:59 PM | #95 |
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Again, I trust our front office and coaches because they've proven their worth the last three seasons. We can't have pro bowlers at every single starting position, and what we have across from Clark may not be special but they're not dogshit, either.
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05-03-2021, 03:06 PM | #96 | |
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I disagree strongly that Ronnie Perkins is a 3 down 4-3 end. Hes's 6'2", 253 lbs with 32" arms. No length, no meat, no 3 down 4-3 DE. He's a situational pass rusher for a team like KC or he gets eaten alive in the running game. I liked Dyami, Amon-Ra, Amari Cooper, several WR's in that range. KC front office apparently didn't as much as we did. That doesn't mean we're wrong, and in fact only time will tell if they're right. I suppose what irritates me is that your posts come off as if you are declaring them "wrong" and you "right". Which is plain silly. You want to criticize, you need to wait and see what plays out, otherwise you're just a guy on the internet bitching that they didn't like the guys you liked. |
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05-03-2021, 03:14 PM | #97 |
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I guess I'd counter by saying that with the Chiefs being stuck at the bottom of the draft, then it actually makes more sense to invest in positions like Running Back, IOL, or LB because you are getting the top talents at those positions.
I think it's going to be difficult to draft a DE that will stratify what people typically want around here. That player is never really available late in round one. All that said, by filling the need at center, the Chiefs are now freed up to use their draft capital in positions like WR and DE. This wasn't a deep draft, so if you were ever going to draft some fatties, this was it! |
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05-03-2021, 03:17 PM | #98 | |
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I think you could sign a free agent like Houston and/or Ingram and that would be fine. You need to hit on some value somehwere. |
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05-03-2021, 03:18 PM | #99 | |
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It's also about what vet they can add in FA. If they can add Justin Houston or Kerrigan, for example, they can probably roll with that guy as their main man at LE. Melvin Ingram might lead to more of a role for Jones at E on non-passing downs. |
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05-03-2021, 03:19 PM | #100 |
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If you're hoping for a blue chip DE ala Khalil Mack, you aint getting that in the late first.
Draft and develop is gonna have to work out. |
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05-03-2021, 03:28 PM | #101 | |
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I think that's why they took a swing on the upside Kaindoh offers rather than either of the ND DEs. They're taking a swing on his physical attributes and hoping his lack of production and development at Florida State was due to the crap show it was. |
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05-03-2021, 04:17 PM | #102 | |
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And that doesn’t necessarily have to be a rule. It just makes sense given our needs and what was available. If we had our 1st, you take a big swing on a guy like Oweh for example. |
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05-03-2021, 04:32 PM | #103 | |
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05-03-2021, 10:21 PM | #104 |
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Even though I think Nick Bolton is a high floor/low ceiling player, I don’t mind him. He will take over for Hitchens and save money which has value. I don’t think he’s gonna suck by any means.
Meanwhile watching this team draft these awesome athletes in college who underwhelmed and didn’t do jack shit in a Chiefs uniform has been as true as death and taxes. Eddie Freeman Turk McBride Tank Tyler Junior Siavii Tyson ****ing Jackson Alex Magee Dontari Poe-he lived up to his draft status for 1 year Tanoh Kpassagnon Khaulen Saunders All these guys had a singular trait or combo of elite athleticism, elite strength, elite size and they all sucked. I didn’t list Speaks fat ass but he was touted ass this strong and tough. We saw how that worked out. Meanwhile Tamba, DT, Houston and even Jones all dominated in college. They had good production and ****ing owned some mother****ers. Like they straight up raped college lineman. Even Dee ****ing Ford flashed a lot and had good production in college and had value here for a time until he royally ****ed up. Yes I’d even put Allen Bailey on that list. He was very productive in college. Only DL that I can remember that was awesome in college and let me down was Glenn Dorsey. Generally I’m just tired of seeing the underwhelming college DL get drafted not for what they are but what they could be. It just doesn’t seem to work out at that position for us. That’s why I wanted the ND kid |
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05-03-2021, 11:15 PM | #105 |
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Some of your points have merit, so I'm curious how would you have chosen differently considering how the draft played out?
I may have proffered the following: Bolton, better value over Basham and Marshall. Humphrey, another potential 1st rounder in the late 2nd. Ihmir Smih-Marsette instead of Kaindoh would have been my first adjustment. Wallow instead of Gray, I like Gray a lot but Wallow has pass rush and completes our LB core Ogundeji over Powell, is there a big difference between Ogundeji and Kaindoh? Trey Smith was a steal here, potential future starter in the 6th. |
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