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Old 06-14-2024, 09:08 AM   #2
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He also got hurt last season and his numbers fell off a cliff. I think Trevor's hype is affecting him in general. He's a top ten QB with a ceiling that could be top 5. I could see him getting better, I could see him staying mediocre. Either is a possibility.

But you don't assume the bad outcome when it comes time to pay him. What are you even saving the money for? It could be years before you get a better QB if you let him go.
Like I said, totally fine with paying him, but you're absolutely making a projection when you do. He has not been good enough. He needs to be better.
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Old 06-14-2024, 09:48 AM   #3
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He also got hurt last season and his numbers fell off a cliff. I think Trevor's hype is affecting him in general. He's a top ten QB with a ceiling that could be top 5. I could see him getting better, I could see him staying mediocre. Either is a possibility.

But you don't assume the bad outcome when it comes time to pay him. What are you even saving the money for? It could be years before you get a better QB if you let him go.
Lawrence's hype has been affecting him since he won the national championship. He has never really progressed from that game.
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Old 06-14-2024, 09:53 AM   #4
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Sure, he's not the "only one to blame", but I also think many of you are flat out making excuses.

Again, his situation is no worse than Jones, and better in some ways like weapons, yet that's the level of production we've seen. That's not good enough, and no amount of excuses changes that.
The situation may be Jones but at the very worst Trevor Lawrence is probably Alex Smith. Maybe even Eli Manning. At the very worst Jones has been a bottom 5 QB.

Dak has run out of excuses. Trevor has legit ones. But more importantly you already have a safe floor so he's not gonna bust, but those excuses give reason to take a chance on upside. Yeah I'd say being only on year 3 and showing promise up until a significant injury is enough to take a chance on the ceiling
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Old 06-14-2024, 09:00 AM   #5
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I'm glad these teams are overpaying their QB's that haven't done anything yet.
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Old 06-14-2024, 09:58 AM   #6
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Take a look at the 3 week stretch versus Tennessee, Houston, Cincinnati which is when he got hurt. It isn't just the stat line. He was a totally different QB and they did a great job of running all kinds of exotic misdirections and quick throws. Those are really hard to pull off with a bad ankle. So I think you give him the benefit of the doubt that injury impacted him more than it gets credit for
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Old 06-14-2024, 11:31 AM   #7
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This is no different than the spot a lot of teams get in.

Lawrence isn't an elite QB but what the **** are you supposed to do? Start over and pray?
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Old 06-14-2024, 02:46 PM   #8
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This is no different than the spot a lot of teams get in.

Lawrence isn't an elite QB but what the **** are you supposed to do? Start over and pray?


Right. I think people will end up saying that JAX got ahead of the QB question and made the right decision a few years from now.

Hell, just looking at his contract on Spotrac, this year his cap hit is just $15.4 million, next year it's $17 million, then it's $24 million . . . he doesn't get near $50 million cap hit until 2028. And right after that season JAX can cut him with a zero cap hit, if I'm reading it right.
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Old 06-14-2024, 03:22 PM   #9
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Right. I think people will end up saying that JAX got ahead of the QB question and made the right decision a few years from now.

Hell, just looking at his contract on Spotrac, this year his cap hit is just $15.4 million, next year it's $17 million, then it's $24 million . . . he doesn't get near $50 million cap hit until 2028. And right after that season JAX can cut him with a zero cap hit, if I'm reading it right.
It is 200 mil guaranteed over 5 years at most?

So there's gotta' be some type of dead cap hit.
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Old 06-14-2024, 03:29 PM   #10
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It is 200 mil guaranteed over 5 years at most?

So there's gotta' be some type of dead cap hit.


I just looked at this:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_...revor-lawrence


But I didn't examine it very closely. Just saw the bit there after 2028, "potential out," where it says they can cut him in 2029 blahblahblah.
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Old 06-14-2024, 08:37 PM   #11
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Reading these comments are cringe AF. How many years do you think the coach and GM would get if they crash out let Lawrence go and go 1-15? Easy to say it's stupid on a message board way different ball game when peoples careers are at stake
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Old 06-15-2024, 08:06 PM   #12
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Reading these comments are cringe AF. How many years do you think the coach and GM would get if they crash out let Lawrence go and go 1-15? Easy to say it's stupid on a message board way different ball game when peoples careers are at stake
oh well that's how the league goes is a good thing to say to someone getting fired for letting a top 10 QB walk to save some cash
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Old 06-16-2024, 02:04 AM   #13
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oh well that's how the league goes is a good thing to say to someone getting fired for letting a top 10 QB walk to save some cash
He's not top 10. Proven by advanced metrics as well as simple ones
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