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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

A couple of reminders...

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Old 03-23-2020, 06:59 PM   #10126
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Everyone in Marcellus’s family is immune to the Coronavirus.

Must be all the inbreeding....
eating buggers improves your immune system.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:00 PM   #10127
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Gonna take a Draculean effort to pull the economy outta this tailspin. I suggest we all take up karate lessons to support local biz.
jiu jitsu would be more efficient in spreading the virus.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:01 PM   #10128
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Do you have any idea what the CFR was for SARS v1.0?
Im well aware you dont read shit and comment all the time while uninformed.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:02 PM   #10129
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Everyone in Marcellus’s family is immune to the Coronavirus.

Must be all the inbreeding....
Dont make come beat your ass just to prove I dont have the Kung Flu.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:02 PM   #10130
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Im well aware you dont read shit and comment all the time while uninformed.
And there's a classic Marcellus "no."

SARS v1.0 had a CFR of almost 10%. Just to clue you in, what we are dealing with right now is SARS v2.0 (SARS-CoV-2).

It's NOT influenza in any way, shape or form.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:03 PM   #10131
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:04 PM   #10132
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Check out the posts on page 666
I'm only on page 127.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:05 PM   #10133
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I keep telling you but you don't listen. It's pretty clear at this point you don't want to. Some of you guys are just being stubborn for the fun of it.

Even if you take a conservative estimate based on the fact we don't know all the cases... the hospitalization and mortality rates are miles higher with this than 2009.
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Do you have any idea what the CFR was for SARS v1.0?
To be fair, it’s hard to really nail down this one yet

They’ll move around so Much
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:05 PM   #10134
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And there's a classic Marcellus "no."
I know you are using a number after 2 years and a vaccine.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:05 PM   #10135
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I'm only on page 127.
Im on 169 Goddamn how many post per page you running?
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:06 PM   #10136
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To be fair, it’s hard to really nail down this one yet

They’ll move around so Much
The CFR for SARS v1.0 is established.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:07 PM   #10137
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I know you are using a number after 2 years and a vaccine.
The numbers (which I added) are the numbers. They are fact for SARS v1.0.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:07 PM   #10138
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And there's a classic Marcellus "no."

SARS v1.0 had a CFR of almost 10%. Just to clue you in, what we are dealing with right now is SARS v2.0 (SARS-CoV-2).

It's NOT influenza in any way, shape or form.
True we won't likely get to 12,000 deaths in the first 12 months of China Flu like we did H1N1.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:08 PM   #10139
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The numbers (which I added) are the numbers. They are fact for SARS v1.0.
I see you have gone to the proven Donger tactic of shifting goal posts and arguing your own qualifiers. Shocking.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:09 PM   #10140
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CFR for COVID-19 was estimated to be 3.4% when the stuff hit the fan. I imagine that it'll end up being around 1 to 1.5 once it ends. That's nothing like seasonal flu CFR.
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Speaking to reporters earlier this month, Brett Giroir, assistant secretary for health at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, called attention to the "denominator problem"—i.e., the exclusion of many people with mild or nonexistent symptoms from official counts of confirmed COVID-19 infections. Giroir noted that "the typical mortality rate for seasonal flu is about 0.1 percent or 0.15 percent." By contrast, "the best estimates now for the overall mortality rate for COVID-19 is somewhere between 0.1 percent and 1 percent."

That range is "lower than you heard, probably, in many reports," Giroir said. "Why is this? Number one, it's because many people don't get sick and don't get tested…so probably for every case, there are at least two or three cases that are not even in the denominator." The CFR for COVID-19 "certainly could be higher" than the CFR for "normal flu," and "it probably is," Giroir said, but it is "not likely to be in the range of 2 to 3 percent," as the crude CFRs for some countries suggest. While the COVID-19 pandemic "is likely more severe in its mortality rate than the typical flu season," he added, "it's certainly within the range."

Three federal public health officials—Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; H. Clifford Lane, the institute's deputy director for clinical research and special projects; and Robert Redfield, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—struck a similar note in a New England Journal of Medicine commentary last month. "If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1 percent," they wrote. "This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of COVID-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1 percent) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively."
My guess would be in the .2 or .3 range BUT that should drop considerably if the HCQ and AZ treatment proves to be effective on a large scale. We should know by next Monday, if that is the case and we have ample supplies, there is no excuse not to start opening things up again.
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