***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You think we should have locked the country down after 2 cases were found?

I cant respond to this question in this thread due to the restrictions of the lounge.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

We have about 6x the population they do.

Thats it? We have too many people? I guess that matters a lot. You need more stockpiles of supplies, hospital beds etc. I'd also be against the draconian measures that China took to contain the outbreak.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I’m surprised someone hasn’t photoshopped the scene with him burning the pile of cash with toilet paper instead with the want to watch the world burn caption.

You notice the.guy on the top in the chair burned alive? Just noticed that awhile back

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Yeah well most cases parents control the money, so tell me who should be calling the shots?

Should be and are are 2 completely different things. Today's kids are far more spoiled and entitled.

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[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

My sister is the ****ing worst. She sent a group text message this morning seeing if anyone wanted to buy her kid birthday presents.

Oh, and in case you do, here's our pre-approved Amazon list, this way if you buy something off the list, it drops off, and ensures no one buys him the same thing.

OH, and make sure you order today because Amazon is terribly slow right now.

Thanks and enjoy the pandemic.



****ing firstborn children, man.

Detecting some jealousy in this post.

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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...et-its-success

great find. Thanks, Lots of good info in that article.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Detecting some jealousy in this post.

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Yes I'm jealous I don't get to beg for birthday presents for a child I also had to pay to get (he's adopted).



The worst part of this is they are very well off.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Should be and are are 2 completely different things. Today's kids are far more spoiled and entitled.

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Our son is a millennial. He's been social distancing with us last week. They are not all irresponsible.

[Demonpenz]

Text her that if the parents didn't want the kid I shouldn't have to it stuff.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Our son is a millennial. He's been social distancing with us last week. They are not all irresponsible.

What I've seen from that group as I have kids that age....is this.

Some of them think it's all bullshit.
A lot of them just don't care and think this is ****ing up their lives.
A few are freaked out because they have anxiety problems.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Yes I'm jealous I don't get to beg for birthday presents for a child I also had to pay to get (he's adopted).



The worst part of this is they are very well off.

I think entire concept of "gift" is lost on you.

[dirk digler]

This is pretty cool and shows how international travel from China screwed everybody.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mid=tw-nytimes

[Rukdafaidas]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Yes I'm jealous I don't get to beg for birthday presents for a child I also had to pay to get (he's adopted).



The worst part of this is they are very well off.

Send him some MRE's.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Mecca

What I've seen from that group as I have kids that age....is this.



Some of them think it's all bullshit.

A lot of them just don't care and think this is ****ing up their lives.

A few are freaked out because they have anxiety problems.

My niece is 31 and I have noticed that everything is an inconvenience to her being able to live the life she wants. She doesn't care what anyone or generations had to go through in their lives.

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[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Rukdafaidas

Send him some MRE's.