***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[tk13]

That's actually going to be an interesting to watch with all the spring breakers going home. Will it wreck the whole last week of everything being shut down? I guess we'll find out. All the colleges shutting down was probably a good idea in retrospect, otherwise they'd all probably blow up with cases by next week.

[BossChief]

Honestly, they should all be quarantined for 2 weeks.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by tk13

That's actually going to be an interesting to watch with all the spring breakers going home. Will it wreck the whole last week of everything being shut down? I guess we'll find out. All the colleges shutting down was probably a good idea in retrospect, otherwise they'd all probably blow up with cases by next week.

Yeah... Probably wishful thinking but lets hope it didn't spread too much during spring break among those kids.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by tk13

That's actually going to be an interesting to watch with all the spring breakers going home. Will it wreck the whole last week of everything being shut down? I guess we'll find out. All the colleges shutting down was probably a good idea in retrospect, otherwise they'd all probably blow up with cases by next week.

They'll go home to do their online classes and infect their entire family. What kind of parent lets their kid go on Spring Break during this?

[RINGLEADER]

Face it — we’re not really locked down. Too many people are still congregating and moving around. I get why things like the subway are on but until that stuff is shut down this is going to take longer to climb out of — maybe in a couple weeks with thousands are dying every day things will change?

[AustinChief]

Debi Mazar Tests Positive for Covid-19, Explains How She Found Out

I have just tested positive for Covid-19. I AM OK! About a month ago my entire home(husband and two teen daughters) got an odd bug- Low grade fever, headaches, sore throat,body aches, ears ringing and a dry cough. It cleared up quickly. Seasonal I thought? but it felt unusual/different… Two weeks later, March 15th,I woke up with all those same symptoms but super intense body aches ,and 102.4 fever.

I have no idea who this person is... BUT it begs the question... how often has this occurred? What if this situation is the norm and not the exception? Keep this in mind anytime you look at the numbers and remember we have NO CLUE how many people are already immune at this point. It could be .25% or it could be 25%. This virus has been running wild in America for MONTHS now. The first one we KNOW ABOUT is from late January...

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How reliable is that data?

It's low, that's the only thing we know for sure. Old people are dying in nursing homes and other places w/o ever getting tested.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by tk13

That's actually going to be an interesting to watch with all the spring breakers going home. Will it wreck the whole last week of everything being shut down? I guess we'll find out. All the colleges shutting down was probably a good idea in retrospect, otherwise they'd all probably blow up with cases by next week.

Same for all those people who were crammed into O'Hare and other airports coming back from Europe last weekend. They're hitting the end of the average incubation period right now.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How reliable is that data?

john Hopkins map has similar data


https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[PAChiefsGuy]

New York warns of major medical shortages in 10 days

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51998429

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That has been my understanding as well. As far as I have heard they are not just testing you for Covid-19 and nothing else. And that would make sense. If they diagnose you with the flu they save a test and PPE gear. You may still need to be hospitalized though, of course.

This may be true in some places, but not everywhere. It's a clinical decision

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

New York warns of major medical shortages in 10 days

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51998429

Right before the incubation period ends for a lot of the spring break kids.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Exactly. They better contain that shit, or the whole game changes again.

People will try to flee the state and that will spread this thing everywhere quickly.

I’m in favor of locking down NYC like I Am Legend. Keep them from spreading it to the rest of the country.

[suzzer99]

Video of a hospital in Spain. Watch it. Watch it again with the volume up.
Now cancel that brunch.
Postpone that coffee meet-up.
Rain check that dinner with friends.
Sucks doesn’t it? But not as hard as this ��#COVIDー19 #coronavirus #StayAtHome

pic.twitter.com/LM9BnFQf3E

— Ed Leon Klinger (@edleonklinger) March 22, 2020

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I’m in favor of locking down NYC like I Am Legend. Keep them from spreading it to the rest of the country.

My buddy is a NYC firefighter. He's been posting I Am Legend pics on FB.