House of the Dragon

[Hammock Parties]

OH YEAH!

All the dragons roar as one.
The #HOTD trailer has arrived. pic.twitter.com/ug7ESvpg8U

— House of the Dragon (@HouseofDragon) July 20, 2022

[ThaVirus]

Speaking of.. you know who’s turned into a real **** these days? Jace.

That hypocrite mf has spent half of his screen time lamenting about being a bastard and the last couple episodes shitting on other bastards.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Shut your dirty whore mouth when you speak about Halaena!

Yea, not many characters that I legitimately sympathize with in this show, but she's definitely one of them.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Speaking of.. you know who’s turned into a real **** these days? Jace.

That hypocrite mf has spent half of his screen time lamenting about being a bastard and the last couple episodes shitting on other bastards.

He's 100% right though. Giving somebody like Ulf that kind of power is ****ing reeruned, and will undoubtedly lead to consequences.

[mr. tegu]

I know people were taking about awesome things Daemon would do. I’m not waiting years to find out. What is the best thing in all GOT that he does? Or where would I find it? Spoilers welcome.

[arrowheadnation]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I know people were taking about awesome things Daemon would do. I’m not waiting years to find out. What is the best thing in all GOT that he does? Or where would I find it? Spoilers welcome.

You said spoilers, so I’m going to spell it out for you…you’ve been warned.

Spoiler!

There are lots of book synopses videos on YouTube. I recommend watching one of those. The big remaining highlights for Daemon are when he and Reynera land their dragons on the red keep and take over (I assume this will happen in the first or second episode of season 3) and his final battle with Aemond is going to be epic. They meet in the air over The God’s Eye. Caraxes locks his jaws on Vagar’s neck and Vagar bites off one of Caraxes’ wings. Daemon realizes his fate and leaps from his rider’s seat onto Vagar’s back, driving Dark Sister through Aemond’s remaining good eye. All four fall to their deaths. That’s if they follow the book, but they’ve started to deviate a good bit because he cheats on Reynera in the book with a dragon seed named Nettles who is sheepstealer’s rider. In the show, they’re implying that Rhaena is going to claim Sheepstealer. I’m wondering if the witch storyline may have been used in place of it.

[BigRichard]

Such a huge ****ing disappointment.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

You said spoilers, so I’m going to spell it out for you…you’ve been warned.

Spoiler!

There are lots of book synopses videos on YouTube. I recommend watching one of those. The big remaining highlights for Daemon are when he and Reynera land their dragons on the red keep and take over (I assume this will happen in the first or second episode of season 3) and his final battle with Aemond is going to be epic. They meet in the air over The God’s Eye. Caraxes burns/wounds Vagar to the point where he won’t survive the fall to earth but vagar snaps caraxes’ neck in a final collision. Daemon realizes his fate and leaps from his rider’s seat onto Vagar’s back, driving Dark Sister through Aemond’s remaining good eye. All four fall to their deaths. That’s if they follow the book, but they’ve started to deviate a bit because he cheats on Reynera in the book with another gal. I’m wondering if the witch storyline may have been used in place of it.

Thanks! Thats pretty epic. I’ll check out some videos. I’ve always enjoyed the lore videos and I know they often refer to these events of this story so I wasn’t overly concerned with spoilers.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He's 100% right though. Giving somebody like Ulf that kind of power is ****ing reeruned, and will undoubtedly lead to consequences.

No doubt, but he seems less worried about the potential for it to go wrong and more about how it defiles the Targaryen name.

[Dunerdr]

Halaena reminds me too much of Luna Lovegood in Harry Potter. Just out in her own world.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

You can't do all of this build up all season for absolutely no payoff. There were some good parts, but God damn the Lannister scenes were completely ****ing stupid. The Alicent coming to talk to Rhaenyra stuff was ****ing stupid. Those 2 things took up way too much time and were just stupid.

Is Halaena hanging out with the 3 eyed Raven? She can see all this shit just like Bran was able to, but didn't decide to save her kid?

It depends on what you define as "payoff." If they were following a traditional 10-episode arc, episode 9 would be the one where all the things happen, and episode 10 would be a little action and a lot of set-up. In an 8-episode season, that formula changes, I guess.

But I thought there was a good deal of character-driven payoff in this one, even if there was not a big dragon showdown (it would have required a major deviation from the books to have anything like that happening this episode).

The Lannister scenes set up something important, though - which is indicative of why the Triarchy agreed to the proposal. They could have shortened it, sure, but they're again emphasizing SHOWING us things as they happen rather than TELLING us after the fact.

If Lannister had shown up with that fleet without all those scenes, would it have worked? Sure, it would have. But people also could have - and would have - complained about that.

Alicent came to Rhaenyra in an attempt to prevent thousands of people - including herself and her daughter - from getting nuked by the dragons. This is a deviation from the books, possibly, but it does continue the journey with that character - showing her regrets and attempts to mitigate the bad effects of some of her mistaken choices.

They are trying really hard to portray both Alicent and Rhaenyra as fully developed characters, neither all good nor all bad but both generally trying to do the right thing. I'm here for it.

Re: Halaena ... It is clear the Targaryens have some magic in their blood (go figure!) and some can occasionally see the future. It's a different gift than that of the First Men we've seen (the Reeds, the Starks), or at least the first example of that gift existing outside the First Men. We've seen some subtle hints of Halaena "seeing" things but again, prophecy is a fickle thing and no vision tends to flow entirely true. They're showing us reason to believe in "Aegon's Dream" and also setting up some fun and tragic things with Rhaegar Targaryen, should the timeline of Robert's Rebellion ever be explored.

[ThaVirus]

Yeah, I can’t remember all of the visions, but some of her seemingly throwaway lines appeared to be visions of the future.

The ones I remember are her mentioning that the rats are becoming a problem to Aegon right before Blood & Cheese and one of her crickets no longer chirping, which I’m guessing was an allusion to Aegon’s predicament.

[ThaVirus]

And is Alicent the most self righteous character in the GoT universe? I think so.