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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-11-2022, 03:43 PM   #886
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Sporting News has us taking Devin Lloyd although they say for spags 3-4 defense
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Old 04-11-2022, 07:04 PM   #887
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Sporting News has us taking Devin Lloyd although they say for spags 3-4 defense

Man, I’m gonna have to give Vinnie some shit about that one.
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Old 04-11-2022, 11:01 PM   #888
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Using next years first and this years first and second to go all the way up to 6 with Carolina to get a potential all pro level pass rusher and a bunch of 4th and 5th rounders. Moved around from there a little to get guys I like. I just missed on being able to get a good WR in a couple spots but here’s the haul I came out with.

Kayvon Thibodeaux - Pass rusher that can develop into all pro
David Ojabo - big risk here, but the reward is ungodly.
Jalen Pitre - corner, FS, slot…super versatile and good leader
James Cook - game breaker like his brother.
Marcus Jones - best returner in college football and a good cover corner that plays much bigger than his size.
Brian Cook - BIG safety that has gotten some comparisons to Kam Chancellor
Zyon McCollum - big corner with skills to match up against bigger receivers in the division. One of the fastest players in this draft, too.
D'Marco Jackson - good against the run and natural talents as a pass rusher while being solid in coverage.
Zach Tom - Quality backup OL that’s versatile.
Josh Johnson - I waited too long to get a WR…I know nothing about this WR except his PFF grade.
Jordan Jackson - 6’5” 285 with some pass rush skills…lottery ticket pick.
Eric Swenson - sleeper pick for OT. I think this guy will be better in the NFL and was very solid at Oklahoma.
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Old 04-12-2022, 12:45 AM   #889
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Here’s another one using next years first to go get Jermaine Johnson.

Jermaine Johnson
Skyy Moore
Johan Dotson
Tre McBride
Cam Thomas
Marcus Jones
James Cook
Brian Cook
Jojo Domann
Zyon McCollum
Sam Williams

Holy shit that draft would LOAD UP the offense while providing the defense with a top end pass rush that’s 3 deep long term, 2 good corners, the best returner in the draft to replace Pringle, a playmaking running back with juice, a really good all around linebacker and lets us use the cap space to maybe add another defender if they would like to.
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Old 04-12-2022, 05:09 AM   #890
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Using next years first and this years first and second to go all the way up to 6 with Carolina to get a potential all pro level pass rusher and a bunch of 4th and 5th rounders. Moved around from there a little to get guys I like. I just missed on being able to get a good WR in a couple spots but here’s the haul I came out with.

Kayvon Thibodeaux - Pass rusher that can develop into all pro
David Ojabo - big risk here, but the reward is ungodly.
Jalen Pitre - corner, FS, slot…super versatile and good leader
James Cook - game breaker like his brother.
Marcus Jones - best returner in college football and a good cover corner that plays much bigger than his size.
Brian Cook - BIG safety that has gotten some comparisons to Kam Chancellor
Zyon McCollum - big corner with skills to match up against bigger receivers in the division. One of the fastest players in this draft, too.
D'Marco Jackson - good against the run and natural talents as a pass rusher while being solid in coverage.
Zach Tom - Quality backup OL that’s versatile.
Josh Johnson - I waited too long to get a WR…I know nothing about this WR except his PFF grade.
Jordan Jackson - 6’5” 285 with some pass-rush skills…lottery ticket pick.
Eric Swenson - sleeper pick for OT. I think this guy will be better in the NFL and was very solid at Oklahoma.
I've been playing around with the same. Packaging #29 + 2023 1st to get up to Top 10 for Kayvon Thibodeaux. After that, I think we could trade down out of the 1st, say 10 spots back, and recover a couple of middle-round picks to restock our draft capital.
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:44 AM   #891
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Guys, the Draft is in KC next year.

No way do the Chiefs HOST the draft and NOT have a first round pick.

Not...Gonna...Happen.
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Old 04-12-2022, 01:22 PM   #892
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Guys, the Draft is in KC next year.

No way do the Chiefs HOST the draft and NOT have a first round pick.

Not...Gonna...Happen.
There is a very real possibility they trade Chris Jones and/or Orlando Brown Jr to land a 1st rounder. I wouldn't fret too much about it. I don't think they'll use next year's 1st but if a team wants that instead of 50, then I wouldn't hesitate.
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Old 04-12-2022, 02:43 PM   #893
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There is a very real possibility they trade Chris Jones and/or Orlando Brown Jr to land a 1st rounder. I wouldn't fret too much about it. I don't think they'll use next year's 1st but if a team wants that instead of 50, then I wouldn't hesitate.
If we can snag Wyatt or T. Jones in this draft, I'd be down for shipping C. Jones off for a first. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-12-2022, 03:16 PM   #894
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It would be a damn shame if there's a player Veach really likes and has to trade up to get but he says "I can't do it the draft is being hosted in KC next year"
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:20 PM   #895
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It would be a damn shame if there's a player Veach really likes and has to trade up to get but he says "I can't do it the draft is being hosted in KC next year"
If that happens, he doesnt need to trade next years first. He has plenty of ammo this year.

Having TWO firsts next year by trading CJ would be pretty sweet too.
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:06 PM   #896
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What the **** is going on the PFN mock simulator? HMOG the value at receiver was impossible to look away from. I intended to get 1 and if a good player fell to a pick in the top 3 rounds, I’d get 2…but there’s no way on earth I’m passing on Skyy Moore at 103. I kept getting sniped on corners and didn’t want to reach for guys I don’t see as talents that im not a fan of.

Their board seems “off”.

30. Jameson Williams WR Alabama
36. David Ojabo EDGE Michigan
50. Travis Jones DT Connecticut
62. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State
81. Sam Williams EDGE Mississippi
94. Nicholas Petit-Frere OT Ohio State
103. Skyy Moore WR Western Michigan
121. Bryan Cook S Cincinnati
135. JoJo Domann LB Nebraska
233. D'Marco Jackson LB Appalachian State
243. Kyler McMichael CB North Carolina
251. Bo Melton WR Rutgers
259. Noah Ellis DT Idaho
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:10 PM   #897
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Here’s the second pic. Unreal draft. Add another corner or 2 and the holes in this roster are damn near gone and we have a completely unstoppable offense and a nasty defense.
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:53 PM   #898
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If that happens, he doesnt need to trade next years first. He has plenty of ammo this year.

Having TWO firsts next year by trading CJ would be pretty sweet too.
Ideally I'd like to find a nice LT in the 2nd or 3rd and move on from OBJ after this year. Not very realistic but damn if Veach could pull that off...
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:10 PM   #899
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Here’s one for fun with 20 picks for Staylor.

36.

Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia
trade icon
KC
50.

Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota
KC
61.

Trey McBride
TE Colorado State
trade icon
KC
62.

Drake Jackson
EDGE USC
KC
67.

Skyy Moore
WR Western Michigan
trade icon
KC
93.

Troy Andersen
LB Montana State
trade icon
KC
94.

Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis
KC
103.

James Cook
RB Georgia
KC
105.

Bryan Cook
S Cincinnati
trade icon
KC
121.

Mario Goodrich
CB Clemson
KC
135.

Zach Tom
OT Wake Forest
KC
138.

Charlie Kolar
TE Iowa State
trade icon
KC
172.

JoJo Domann
LB Nebraska
trade icon
KC
187.

Marcus Jones
CB Houston
trade icon
KC
208.

Josh Jobe
CB Alabama
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KC
225.

Eyioma Uwazurike
DT Iowa State
trade icon
KC
233.

Dylan Parham
OG Memphis
KC
243.

D'Marco Jackson
LB Appalachian State
KC
251.

Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee
KC
259.

Nasir Greer
S Wake Forest
2023 SF 3rd
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Old 04-12-2022, 11:19 PM   #900
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Lance Zierlein Mock Draft 3.0:

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/lance-zierl...trade-up-for-w

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Kansas City Chiefs
Chris Olave
Ohio State · WR · Senior
PROJECTED TRADE WITH ARIZONA CARDINALS

You didn't think GM Brett Veach was going to just sit and wait at the back of the draft with all that capital (12 total picks, including Nos. 29 and 30 and six within the first 103), did you?

30.
Kansas City Chiefs
Boye Mafe
Minnesota · Edge · Senior (RS)

With receiver out of the way, the Chiefs turn to bolstering the edge. Mafe's explosiveness and power are exciting traits for defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo to mold.
This would be a great start.
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