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Old 04-26-2021, 05:37 AM  
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Falcons taking calls on Julio Jones

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A hamstring injury limited Jones to just nine games last season, though he still put up strong numbers when he was on the field. He caught 51 passes for 771 yards and three scores as the Falcons finished the year 4-12. From 2014-19, Jones missed only four games and averaged 104 catches and 1,564 yards per season. SI Link.







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Surprises? Keep an eye on Atlanta. I can’t predict any bombshells. But a few things would not surprise me. Most notably, the Falcons putting the framework of a trade together for star wideout Julio Jones, and making the trade effective June 2. That way, Atlanta could split Jones’ cap charge between 2021 and 2022 instead of getting bashed with it all this year. So if such a trade happens, I expect it could involve a future pick or picks, nothing this year. (A future second-round pick as compensation seems fair to me.) Because such a trade wouldn’t be official till June, no picks in this draft could be involved. As for the interested team or teams, I would guess Las Vegas; Jon Gruden couldn’t resist Antonio Brown, and I doubt he could resist Julio Jones. New England too, and a couple of teams with clear receiver needs—Tennessee and Baltimore.

Now, the Falcons don’t really want to trade Julio Jones. He’s a franchise legend. But he’s 32, entering his 11th season, coming off a banged-up year with seven games missed due to injury, and the Falcons are in cap jail. If they could off-load his money and cushion it by splitting it between this year ($7.75 million) and next ($15.5 million), Atlanta’s cap charge on Jones this year goes down by a tad more than $15 million.

One final note here, to be very clear: I am not reporting the Falcons will trade Jones, or will probably trade Jones. I am saying it would not surprise me if it happened.

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Old 05-26-2021, 09:23 AM   #886
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I'd also add to this that Rodgers is currently unhappy in GB and that turbulence could also cause Julio to turn his head towards KC.

Basically, it's a lock. We're signing him. lol
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:31 AM   #887
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And yes I'd be willing to add more guaranteed years to get a future hall of famer who has had 1 non all pro season in his last 7. Or figure out how to extend Mathieu and take the whole 15 mil this year. Either way works.
Back to the Matthieu extension that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

You're arguing in circles.

You want to change my mind?

1. Find a REALISTIC way to reduce Jones' salary or
2. Find a REALISTIC way to absorb the full $15M and
3. Find a realistic way to reduce the number of draft picks involved.

So far all I've heard is a bunch of unrealistic stuff (like redoing Matthieu in a snap when they've already been trying for months) or trading them our trash (they don't want Demarcus Robinson).
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:34 AM   #888
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It’s good for a player his age to restructure. Especially when everything after this year isn’t guaranteed. Teams don’t like dead money at all. It’s a direct measurement of mid management.

Julios contract is a bargain, not a detractor. 37m for 3 years with 15m guaranteed...can part ways after year 1 with no dead money.

That’s a badass contract for whoever trades for him.
No shit.

But like you said in your previous post, the team on the receiving end of the trade has to take on his full guaranteed salary at the time of the trade. The Chiefs are currently about $8M short of that goal with vertically no prospects of getting that kind of cash. It's MAY, not March.
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:52 AM   #889
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Htismaqe doesn't understand the first thing about maneuvering the cap. Dont even bother. I'd bet my bottom dollar if Julio goes to a legit contender they will also restructure his deal (as you outlined perfectly). Same amount guaranteed to his back pocket they will simply lower the cap hit year 1 and transfer a bit of that money into year 2 and 3 when the cap is expected to rise north of $200 million.
I guarantee you that he understands it quite well.
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:15 AM   #890
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:19 AM   #891
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:22 AM   #892
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I mean, I would like him. But not at the expense of Honey Badger or Brown
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:50 AM   #893
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I mean, I would like him. But not at the expense of Honey Badger or Brown
I bet Jones has a longer career than Mathieu.
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:52 AM   #894
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:56 AM   #895
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You are the biggest ****ing moron on this board. They asked Houston to take a MAJOR pay cut. Not a restructure. Just stop posting.
Who the **** is this punk?
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:59 AM   #896
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I don't give a ****. He's used out wide and gets WR targets.


More proof that you're nothing more than a loudmouth blowhard that knows absolutely nothing about the NFL or football.

If Kelce is a wide receiver, who's lining up at tight end, Butt****? Was the offense more potent in 2018, when Sammy Watkins was lining up outside or when Watkins was injured last year?

It's just more dumbassery from your stupid ass.
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:01 AM   #897
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/05/26/ma...aiders-packers

Maybe Albert Breer's note on Julio Jones and the Chiefs will knock some sense into people, although I doubt it.

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I wouldn’t ever rule out the idea that Chiefs GM Brett Veach could get aggressive at the site of a rare opportunity—and maybe that he’d see the shot to land Julio Jones for less than a first-round pick as one of those. And yes, the idea of Jones, if he can still be Julio, on the other end of Patrick Mahomes bombs is tantalizing, especially when you consider the kind of matchups he might see as a result of playing opposite Tyreek Hill.

But I do think the Chiefs are slowly moving into another phase of their build around Mahomes. The quarterback’s cap number bulges to $35.79 million in 2022, and he’s not the only one who’s going to clog next year’s books. Check these ’22 cap numbers out:

• DE Frank Clark: $26.30 million
• DT Chris Jones: $29.42 million
• WR Tyreek Hill: $20.50 million
• G Joe Thuney: $17.80 million

Add that up, and those five count for $129.81 million against the cap. That’s more than double what the same five count against the cap in ’21 ($62.12 million), and the cap isn’t expected to take its next big jump until ’23, when the new TV deals get factored into the equation. Also, Tyrann Mathieu’s a free agent after this year, Travis Kelce’s cap numbers explode starting in ’23, and K.C. is going to have to look at extending Orlando Brown, too.

Now, the Chiefs can keep pushing money forward, and work it into where many teams expect the cap to go once the new TV money is factored in. But it does feel like at this point, with Mahomes off his rookie deal, Veach & Co. are going to have to start to shift their focus to creating a cheaper layer of players to pair with their group of stars. That means starting to value draft picks more, since the draft is where cheap labor is going to come from.

So in that way, adding Jones would further complicate an already thorny cap situation, while taking away from the capital the Chiefs need to solve it.
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:02 AM   #898
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I don't give a ****. He's used out wide and gets WR targets. Stick to Hollyweird and music
You could just write, "i'm an idiot" it would have the same effect.
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:05 AM   #899
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KC can only do a restructure after he’s a member of their team.

For the trade to be completed, we would need the cap space to cover his base salary. 15.2m.

Now, Atlanta could restructure the deal to facilitate a trade, but that would be the owner writing Julio a check for millions of dollars to leave...and that money would go straight to dead money fir them...not improving their situation.
Atlanta is not going to do the Chiefs any favors in a trade, especially considering there are plenty of teams out there with a need at WR who do have the necessary cap space to absorb his deal.
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:06 AM   #900
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You could just write, "i'm an idiot" it would have the same effect.
He thinks that constantly changing his username will somehow erase 16 years of epic dumbassery on his part.
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