Chiefs and Chris Jones working towards a long term deal. .

[eDave]

Did we sign this Pro Bowler yet?

[RealSNR]

Can't wait to see what Super Bowl Champion Gehrig Dieter can do for us this year!

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by DTVietnam

Every time I see this gif, I get this mental image.

[smithandrew051]

Just to clarify my point.

I don’t think we have a great OL. I just don’t think the pass protection specifically is as bad as some believe.

I think we may be biased as Chiefs fans:

1. Every hit on Mahomes seems worse to us, because we realize exactly how important he is.
2. We were spoiled in the early 2000’s with an unrealistic idea of what an OL should look like.

If there is a stat out there that confirms that our pass protection sucks, I’d absolutely accept that. I just haven’t seen a stat that says that.

Also, the Mahomes mobility argument doesn’t really convince me (at least not after this year). He practically played on one leg for most of the year and we still ended up with some of the best pass protection numbers in the league.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Just to clarify my point.

I don’t think we have a great OL. I just don’t think the pass protection specifically is as bad as some believe.

I think we may be biased as Chiefs fans:

1. Every hit on Mahomes seems worse to us, because we realize exactly how important he is.
2. We were spoiled in the early 2000’s with an unrealistic idea of what an OL should look like.

If there is a stat out there that confirms that our pass protection sucks, I’d absolutely accept that. I just haven’t seen a stat that says that.

Also, the Mahomes mobility argument doesn’t really convince me (at least not after this year). He practically played on one leg for most of the year and we still ended up with some of the best pass protection numbers in the league.

Mahomes is tough and will stand in and take the hit after the ball is out. Those are the shots that take the toll. Our interior line sucks but Pat cancels it out mainly because he is young. You are crazy if you want to take a chance with this phenoms future.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by srvy

Mahomes is tough and will stand in and take the hit after the ball is out. Those are the shots that take the toll. Our interior line sucks but Pat cancels it out mainly because he is young. You are crazy if you want to take a chance with this phenoms future.

I would love to upgrade the interior, but I won’t be shocked if we don’t use an early pick on a C/G.

Apparently, he doesn’t take THAT many of those hits though. Like I said before, we allowed the 7th fewest QB hits in the league. A lot of other teams allowed far more.

My guess is that our entire OL is somewhere around average. The combo of Mahomes and Reid (who really doesn’t get enough credit for this) elevates them to being a top 5 statistical pass protection OL. The Tackles are probably in the top quarter of the league and the Interior is probably in the bottom third of the league.

I don’t think they’re great, but I also don’t think they’re as bad as some believe specifically in pass protection.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Reuter and the rest of the interior played pretty well in the playoffs. The interior mesh got better and better as the season went on (and Wylie was replaced). Reuter also snapped the ball really well. I doubt we place Reuter this season.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Reuter and the rest of the interior played pretty well in the playoffs. The interior mesh got better and better as the season went on (and Wylie was replaced). Reuter also snapped the ball really well. I doubt we place Reuter this season.

Was the second best lineman after Schwartz in the Super Bowl against the best DL in all of football

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

You know what I just realized. Jones 16 mil is already included in the cap and we still have 5 mil to spare. A deal will get done. Veach knows the cap will skyrocket next year. Sign Jones to about 10 mil this year and start giving him 22-23 dollars each year afterwards. Same goes for Mahomes but with a 4 in front of it

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

You know what I just realized. Jones 16 mil is already included in the cap and we still have 5 mil to spare. A deal will get done. Veach knows the cap will skyrocket next year. Sign Jones to about 10 mil this year and start giving him 22-23 dollars each year afterwards. Same goes for Mahomes but with a 4 in front of it

I dont think this is right. Where did you read this?

Edit*

Well you're right according to Spotrac and OTC. That increases my belief that we're extending Jones. I was trying to figure out a way we could afford to extend him with only $5 mil in cap space, but extending him will lower his cap hit for the year and would allow us to resign Breeland.

Both Mack and Donald had low cap hits in their first 2 years of their new contracts, so what we could do is go really low on Jones 1st year, say like $6 or $7 mil and that gives us ~$15 mil in cap space. Have Breeland at $8-$9 mil cap hit and then we have enough to sign rookies. You extend Mahomes this offseason, but he's still playing on the last year of his rookie deal, so he's not gonna cost any extra this year.

It can easily be done.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

You know what I just realized. Jones 16 mil is already included in the cap and we still have 5 mil to spare. A deal will get done. Veach knows the cap will skyrocket next year. Sign Jones to about 10 mil this year and start giving him 22-23 dollars each year afterwards. Same goes for Mahomes but with a 4 in front of it

Ding...Ding...Ding!
Been trying to tell folks in the, "There's NO WAY KC can afford Jones" crowd that, but most have their minds made up, even though Veach has told us that Jones is in KC's plans.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

You know what I just realized. Jones 16 mil is already included in the cap and we still have 5 mil to spare. A deal will get done. Veach knows the cap will skyrocket next year. Sign Jones to about 10 mil this year and start giving him 22-23 dollars each year afterwards. Same goes for Mahomes but with a 4 in front of it

22-23 dollars? I'm all for it but I don't think Jones will go for that.

[Red Dawg]

We need like 6 for picks. That 5 mil is for that.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We need like 6 for picks. That 5 mil is for that.

Will be interesting to see when rookies sign and if there is language that addresses covid (not sure that’s even possible but throwing it out there).