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Its now the year 2022 and technology has come soooo far since 2009 . Can you imagine how good the special effects will be for the sequels. Cameron has always been known to push the envelope with making movie magic (his filmography speaks for itself ). So I can't wait to see what Cameron has up his sleeve with the sequels. I know he's hinted that he's going to have some insane under water action scenes that sound really cool . Here's a pic of Kate Winslet (yes you read that right. Kate Winslet from Titanic has a role in Avatar 2 haha) that went viral awhile back filming a scene under water. Apparently she beat Tom Cruise's record for an actor/actress holding their breath under water while being filmed. (something like over 6 minutes my stoner ass couldn't come close to that haha) Honestly, the ONLY thing that gives me pause is the child actors. I normally can't stand child actors and find them to usually be annoying but there's been some good ones over the years. Hopefully they won't have big parts. I totally forgot I made this thread (way back in 2017) Its now coming out December 2022. I pray to God it doesn't get delayed for the millionth time. But with this shitty pandemic you never know. Feels like I've been waiting 84 years for this shit. Hoping its good! Last edited by sully1983; 01-12-2022 at 07:59 PM.. |
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01-12-2022, 10:32 PM | #77 |
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01-13-2022, 10:12 PM | #78 |
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So I read back through this complete thread. I previously posted how blown away I was by the special effects for when they came out and how meh the plot was. If all you got is special effects, that doesn't usually age well. Not too many think the King Kong from the 30's or Godzilla films from the 50's are the all time cinematic masterpieces of that era. Wizard of Oz didn't stay famous decade after decade merely because of special effects. It really did capture hearts and minds with the characters and story. Pay no attention to the wizard behind the curtain. Toto we're not in Kansas anymore. The wicked witch is dead. What similar scene from Avatar would ever have similar staying power? And then it became famous because it was a part of the American Canon that everyone knew. I guess a counter example is 2001 Space Odyssey. The book was reasonable but the movie didn't age well as it's not much more than special effects. However, it shows up on a surprising number of top 100 movie lists of critics that I would guess haven't seen it in thirty+ years. |
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It is pretty blatant. Like I have said before. Avatar had ground breaking efforts with a hack plot. Once you get past the smoke and mirrors, there is simply nothing present to keep people engaged. |
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01-14-2022, 01:31 PM | #81 |
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01-14-2022, 01:44 PM | #82 | |
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Where did I whine? I merely pointed out the typical Hollywood tropes. Colonialism is seen as a negative by academia and Hollywood. Hilarious considering America or the modern world (of which both institutions profit from) wouldn't exist without it. That is what Avatar was. A what if the pure and innocent indigenous people were able to fight off those evil Europeans fantasy with a environmental lesson. People who pretend that the movie is something different amuse me. |
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01-14-2022, 01:48 PM | #83 | |
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For anybody who thinks mocking Avatar became fashionable years later, here's the first thing I posted about it after returning from the theater back in 2010.
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So just to be clear, we can never have a movie or a story about an advanced society attacking a primitive society without it being deemed white guilt? That seems a bit...weak.
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01-14-2022, 02:59 PM | #85 | |
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Who said that? No one. The context of the story determines it. Avatar clearly operates on the concept that colonialism was nothing but evil Europeans taking away resources and lands from those poor innocent natives. It is an allegory in space with clear themes. Not every advanced/primitive society story involves colonialism but Avatar does. |
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01-14-2022, 08:25 PM | #86 |
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How is it different between any non-white conflict? When farmers from Bolivia, Columbia, Brazil, etc. burn down swaths of rain forest and push out local tribes, is that also "European Colonialism"? Is every story involving a bully usurping the weak an allegory for "European Colonialism"?
I'm seriously asking here. I just don't get it. Early American atrocities against native peoples is not unique. I mean, genocides are occurring all the time on this planet. Why does everything have to be considered an attack on America? |
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Like I said, dude just wants to be a victim. Imagine being a white dude in America crying about a fantasy flick lol
He's also ignoring the other trope in the film of the white savior. |
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01-15-2022, 02:27 PM | #89 |
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Ferngully 2?
It was entertaining enough until the story got predictable; I wasn't really sure how to take the 'connection' angle with the tail thing. It seemed really inappropriate in the context of the film. I have the Blu-Ray however I don't think I would play it just to watch it like I would some other movies like Terminator or Aliens. Even after knowing what is supposed to be happening in 2001, I still have no idea how the audience is supposed to understand why HAL was killing everyone or what the whole acid trip through the monolith was about. |
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I did enjoy the book, though. And I loved the sequel, 2010, which featured a solid, understandable plot and world class actors. |
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