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Old 03-08-2024, 01:48 AM   #2
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I went to Dutch Harbor once and they were everywhere. They had a sign up that warned people to watch their heads lest they get taloned. It was a temporary sign, so maybe I was there in nesting season or something.
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Old 03-07-2024, 04:48 PM   #3
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Go to Alaska. Bald eagles are like wrens or crows.
It's funny. Here in the Omaha area there are a few nests, one is about 2 miles south of my house, and that's where this one is probably from. People also talk of a nest in a recreational area nearby too. We're all pretty excited about them still.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:04 PM   #4
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Years back I was driving through a country road trying to make it to my kids baseball game, and I popped over the hill and a flock of turkeys was in the middle of the road and I just scattered them. I just kept going and got to the south side of town and drove up the main drag to the north side where the ball fields were and parked. Got out and walked around the front of the truck and there was a dead turkey jammed in the brush guard in front of the truck. I yanked it out and threw it under the truck parked next to me and walked to the game.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:11 PM   #5
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It's funny. Here in the Omaha area there are a few nests, one is about 2 miles south of my house, and that's where this one is probably from. People also talk of a nest in a recreational area nearby too. We're all pretty excited about them still.
Apparently there are some in a wildlife refuge north of Denver, but they don't come down in my direction. However, we have one or two that will occasionally come down into the city parks. I saw one just a couple of weeks ago, and it's really cool to see it in the park. This one was at the top of a tree that's actually inside the zoo, so I bet the eagle thinks that the wildlife is amazing in that park.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:16 PM   #6
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It's funny. Here in the Omaha area there are a few nests, one is about 2 miles south of my house, and that's where this one is probably from. People also talk of a nest in a recreational area nearby too. We're all pretty excited about them still.

I was standing below one that was perched in a tree somewhere close to Homer or Kenai and it was like walking into a domestic house with cats. It took notice I was in the area but didn't even really flinch at my presence.

My 2 states are PA and CO and you can't even get in 100 yards of them if you're lucky enough to even spot one.

Alaska is to bald eagles as Sweden is to good looking blond women.
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Old 03-08-2024, 09:03 AM   #7
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As I understood it, the American Bald Eagle WAS on the endangered list but at some point was just moved to Protected or whatever. In any case, we're seeing them around here the last couple of years. I mean, I had never seen one in my life until about 2 years ago. It's kinda breathtaking to be honest. I'm sure as they become more common, it'll be less impressive, but if I see one, I stop and watch.

My wife was watering the flowers by the side of the house, and heard the scraping of talons on the gutters above. She looked up and out of the corner of her eye saw this thing swooping above her head and then it took off down the street. It was a bald eagle, must have either been perched on the roof or was swooping down and hit the gutter. Freaky...

They are BIG for sure, as the OP pic illustrates.

So, what did they do with it? Like, carefully peel it off and stick it in a box for tagging and disposal?
Shit their all over the place out here in Western Nebraska and Eastern Wyoming. Nowadays I get a thrill when I spot a Big Horn Sheep. They started intoducing them about 20yrs ago in the Wildcat Hills. Now they have a hunting season for them since they've thrived so well.
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Old 03-08-2024, 10:33 AM   #8
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"So, what did they do with it? Like, carefully peel it off and stick it in a box for tagging and disposal?"


Yeah probably will ship it off to a facility to make sure it was hit by a truck. I have a friend that runs a lab that deals with poaching and fish and game crimes. She says that sh3 deals witha bunch of dumb stuff and half of it is related to asian black market stuff antlers horns gall bladders you know nature's "viagra"
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Old 03-08-2024, 11:37 AM   #9
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"So, what did they do with it? Like, carefully peel it off and stick it in a box for tagging and disposal?"


Yeah probably will ship it off to a facility to make sure it was hit by a truck. I have a friend that runs a lab that deals with poaching and fish and game crimes. She says that sh3 deals witha bunch of dumb stuff and half of it is related to asian black market stuff antlers horns gall bladders you know nature's "viagra"
they should just go to HIMS.COM . so much easier than hitting bald eagles with your truck
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:06 PM   #10
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:11 PM   #11
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:39 PM   #12
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Just to answer a few points.

Otter is correct. We have a LOT of bald eagles here. They were originally put on the endangered species list because of DDT. DDT accumulates in tissues and fish would eat bugs exposed to DDT and eagles eat the fish and it created problems. With the banning of DDT and strict protection, they are rebounding. But we have a ton of them.

I hit this one on the highway that goes right past the Anchorage dump. For those familiar with the area, it was just past the Hiland Mountain exit.

I've handled cases involving people prosecuted for unlawfully possessing eagle parts. And walrus tusks. And seal hides. And polar bear hides. I'm familiar with the law. There are 2 aspects to the law protecting eagles: criminal and civil. Think of them as the difference between reckless driving and speeding. Reckless driving involves a mental state - recklessness. Speeding does not. If you are facing a speeding ticket, the only question is whether you were speeding, not your excuse or justification.

To be criminally liable, the government would have to prove I knowingly killed this eagle. It was clearly an accident and they cannot do so. If it had been a non-endangered bird, like a turkey, I would have just thrown it into the ditch and filed an insurance claim. Doing so with an eagle, though, could create a ton of issues. I want to avoid the criminal issues. I do face the possibility of a fine. Before I can be fined, though, I am entitled to present a defense. I personally know the USF&W attorney and I've already called him to advise him of this situation.

I figured my choices are as follows: throw the bird off the side of the road, file an insurance claim and hope nobody finds out. Not likely to succeed and I'd be subject to far more scrutiny than I really want. What if they charge me with keeping feathers? I did not but my failure to report at that point looks very, very bad. Or, I can call APD and document that I didn't keep anything and I reported it as quickly as possible. I might (emphasis on might) be fined but I anticipate any fine would be minimal. Further, the fine is essentially insurance that I won't wind up facing worse charges. Does that suck? Yeah but that's life. I figure it's one hell of a story.

The sad thing is that I love this state, in part because of the unique wildlife. Seeing bald eagles, even if it's as common as a seeing a robin in Kansas, still makes my day. I love to see moose and caribou and even when I hunt one, there's grief over death. That grief, though, is mitigated because I know that animal will feed a number of people. This was just death.

In memoriam, I offer this moving tribute to eagles (Language NSFW):

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Old 03-07-2024, 06:33 PM   #13
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Just to answer a few points.


In memoriam, I offer this moving tribute to eagles (Language NSFW):



I'm still at that.
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Old 03-08-2024, 01:43 AM   #14
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Just to answer a few points.

Otter is correct. We have a LOT of bald eagles here. They were originally put on the endangered species list because of DDT. DDT accumulates in tissues and fish would eat bugs exposed to DDT and eagles eat the fish and it created problems. With the banning of DDT and strict protection, they are rebounding. But we have a ton of them.

I hit this one on the highway that goes right past the Anchorage dump. For those familiar with the area, it was just past the Hiland Mountain exit.

I've handled cases involving people prosecuted for unlawfully possessing eagle parts. And walrus tusks. And seal hides. And polar bear hides. I'm familiar with the law. There are 2 aspects to the law protecting eagles: criminal and civil. Think of them as the difference between reckless driving and speeding. Reckless driving involves a mental state - recklessness. Speeding does not. If you are facing a speeding ticket, the only question is whether you were speeding, not your excuse or justification.

To be criminally liable, the government would have to prove I knowingly killed this eagle. It was clearly an accident and they cannot do so. If it had been a non-endangered bird, like a turkey, I would have just thrown it into the ditch and filed an insurance claim. Doing so with an eagle, though, could create a ton of issues. I want to avoid the criminal issues. I do face the possibility of a fine. Before I can be fined, though, I am entitled to present a defense. I personally know the USF&W attorney and I've already called him to advise him of this situation.

I figured my choices are as follows: throw the bird off the side of the road, file an insurance claim and hope nobody finds out. Not likely to succeed and I'd be subject to far more scrutiny than I really want. What if they charge me with keeping feathers? I did not but my failure to report at that point looks very, very bad. Or, I can call APD and document that I didn't keep anything and I reported it as quickly as possible. I might (emphasis on might) be fined but I anticipate any fine would be minimal. Further, the fine is essentially insurance that I won't wind up facing worse charges. Does that suck? Yeah but that's life. I figure it's one hell of a story.

The sad thing is that I love this state, in part because of the unique wildlife. Seeing bald eagles, even if it's as common as a seeing a robin in Kansas, still makes my day. I love to see moose and caribou and even when I hunt one, there's grief over death. That grief, though, is mitigated because I know that animal will feed a number of people. This was just death.

In memoriam, I offer this moving tribute to eagles (Language NSFW):

Thanks for all that, but you're not obligated to defend yourself to a bunch of rerunned pillowbiters around here. Good luck.
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:41 PM   #15
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