Chiefs draft rumor & plans for virtual draft

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And that would be awful use of valuable resources, especially for a team whose salary cap is very Top Heavy and needs to select great players, regardless of position, with their limited number of draft choices.

For example, a great GM won't choose the 10th best offensive lineman when the #4 WR or #2 RB in this class are available when the Chiefs make their selection.

You want to see better protection for Mahomes? Get him another highly skilled RB and WR in this draft.

That will definitely, single handedly remedy the pass rush up the middle. Got it.

No one, or very few, are suggesting reaching for a position group. This draft is so much deeper at WR and RB than LB, IOL and CB. Get value, don't reach but definitely don't punt on drafting IOL at some point this draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

That will definitely, single handedly remedy the pass rush up the middle. Got it.

I thoroughly disagree with your "take".

The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a rotating offensive line from Left Tackle to Right Guard, yet so many of you people think the Chiefs need to spend high draft capital on a center or guard.

That's just dumb.

[Coogs]

Shoot, it says right there in the last sentence of the first quote in the OP that many sources around the NFL expect the Chiefs to draft a RB who is of starter quality.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thoroughly disagree with your "take".

The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a rotating offensive line from Left Tackle to Right Guard, yet so many of you people think the Chiefs need to spend high draft capital on a center or guard.

That's just dumb.

All intents and purposes I have no problems drafting an IOL, but drafting a feature RB is also very important to aid Mahomes' health through the regular season. Patrick's load management is also critical. NFL Live talked about that when Sean Payton was discussing how to keep Brees upright too.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thoroughly disagree with your "take".

The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a rotating offensive line from Left Tackle to Right Guard, yet so many of you people think the Chiefs need to spend high draft capital on a center or guard.

That's just dumb.

This is true. A big part of that is Mahomes ability to escape and create time. He’s usually adding at least 2 seconds to plays that he routinely does that. I get that people will bring up early season struggles, but Pat’s ankle injury was a bigger part of the problem.

I want a RB, just not at 32.

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thoroughly disagree with your "take".

The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a rotating offensive line from Left Tackle to Right Guard, yet so many of you people think the Chiefs need to spend high draft capital on a center or guard.

That's just dumb.

Shocking response, Dane immediately goes calling someone who disagrees with him dumb. I was eagerly awaiting your response explaining how a highly skilled WR or RB leads to better protection for Pat.

It's a pretty simple value proposition. The difference between a 1st or 3-4th round RB, compared to 1st or 3-4th round CB/LB. The drop off is so much steeper at nearly every other position than RB. LB/CB then RB/OL is so much more likely to make the team better than RB first and lesser talent at the other 3 spots in later rounds. Give me any of Akers, CEH, Moss, or few others over Swift/Taylor/Dobbins at 32.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thoroughly disagree with your "take".

The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a rotating offensive line from Left Tackle to Right Guard, yet so many of you people think the Chiefs need to spend high draft capital on a center or guard.

That's just dumb.

The Chiefs also just won the Super Bowl with a well below average linebacker group, does that mean it's fine as is? I don't understand the idea that because it worked last year, the exact same formula will work again next year.

That rotating OL contributed to Mahomes getting injured and hobbled for a good chunk of the season and led to the offense being stymied for a while until we got healthy again. We can't have another Cam Erving being our backup LT again.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And that would be awful use of valuable resources, especially for a team whose salary cap is very Top Heavy and needs to select great players, regardless of position, with their limited number of draft choices.

For example, a great GM won't choose the 10th best offensive lineman when the #4 WR or #2 RB in this class are available when the Chiefs make their selection.

You want to see better protection for Mahomes? Get him another highly skilled RB and WR in this draft.

I'm not saying to take the 10th best OL over a #4 WR, what I am saying is look at the options available at #32. If the best option is a #4 LB, take that guy over the #4 WR. If the best option is a #1 or 2 OL, yes you take him instead of a skill player. A "highly skilled" WR isn't going to be much of a protection blocker.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by oldman

I'm not saying to take the 10th best OL over a #4 WR, what I am saying is look at the options available at #32. If the best option is a #4 LB, take that guy over the #4 WR.

Good God, just no

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by oldman

I'm not saying to take the 10th best OL over a #4 WR, what I am saying is look at the options available at #32. If the best option is a #4 LB, take that guy over the #4 WR. If the best option is a #1 or 2 OL, yes you take him instead of a skill player. A "highly skilled" WR isn't going to be much of a protection blocker.

The 4th best WR in this draft would have been the TOP WR in the past 2-3 drafts and a top 10 pick.

The #4 LB is definitely a second round talent. Maybe a 3rd.

If you take a WR at 32, you can draft a real star who also helps your offense maintain dominance in 2021. If you draft the best IOL available, you may be reaching for a guy who wouldn’t crack the top 40 picks in most other drafts.

Same holds true with RBs who fit this offense - primarily Swift and Dobbins, who are badass receiving threats.

Locking in on positions is dangerous. Veach is aggressive enough to move around - up and down - to ensure he gets guys in the range they’re supposed to go without reaching and sacrificing draft capital.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Chiefs need 4.75 mil for draft picks. Currently they have around 3.7 mil and that doesnt include Seals, Sherman or Drob

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Chiefs need 4.75 mil for draft picks. Currently they have around 3.7 mil and that doesnt include Seals, Sherman or Drob

Those last three players will be on Vet Minimum and only the Top 51 players count towards the cap.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Those last three players will be on Vet Minimum and only the Top 51 players count towards the cap.

The 3.7 mil that they have available takes into account only the top 51. This is according to Spotrac

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

The 3.7 mil that they have available takes into account only the top 51. This is according to Spotrac

Yeah, that's how it works.

Any player added to the roster at Vet Minimum or less won't carry a cap charge because the Top 51 already count fully towards the cap until the start of the regular season.