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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Bambi · 01-25-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I actually turned down an opportunity to move to New York a few years ago. Not a fan of big cities in general, but as cities go, Chicago's not that bad. Better than the filthy overcrowded pisshole you live in.

"Not bad" is exactly how I'd describe Chicago.

**Saul Good** · 01-25-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

You're right. We didn't get the scoreboard in additional to the $86 million.

DAMN!

You didn't get an "additional" $86 million, either. You got $86 million over 12 years INSTEAD OF $65 million over 10 years.

**Saul Good** · 01-25-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I actually turned down an opportunity to move to New York a few years ago. Not a fan of big cities in general, but as cities go, Chicago's not that bad. Better than the filthy overcrowded pisshole you live in.

There are some really nice parts of NYC. Wickedson doesn't live in any of them, though.

Bambi · 01-25-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

You didn't get an "additional" $86 million, either. You got $86 million over 12 years INSTEAD OF $65 million over 10 years.

Get your figures right next time before coming in and playing.

Might want to check the dates on the articles too.

It's the internet. It's just typing buttons.

Braincase · 01-25-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Get your figures right next time before coming in and playing.

Might want to check the dates on the articles too.

It's the internet. It's just typing buttons.

Hey, there's facts and then there's Saul Good facts.

Braincase · 01-25-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

"Not bad" is exactly how I'd describe Chicago.

My ol' friend likes it, but then he gets to work by 5:30 every morning to avoid traffic.

**Saul Good** · 01-25-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

Hey, there's facts and then there's Saul Good facts.

My facts are completely accurate. If you want to pretend that the contract extension gets added to the old contract, be my guest.

Braincase · 01-25-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

My facts are completely accurate. If you want to pretend that the contract extension gets added to the old contract, be my guest.

Actually I was referring to the real broad brush you were painting with regarding KU losing to MU in ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING... and then I proved you wrong.

Facts are facts. I eat crow when I get 'em wrong. You just get snide.

Bambi · 01-25-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

My facts are completely accurate. If you want to pretend that the contract extension gets added to the old contract, be my guest.

BC, Saul is right. I got a bit confused by the unwieldingly high numbers we were discussing when it came to KU athletics.

He posted and article with not date that stated a $65 million media deal between KU and Host Communications.

I posted an article showing an $86 million deal with IMG.

Instead of a contract extension on the end of the $65 million it was to replace the $65 million.

Point is it throttles KU spending and earnings into levels needed to win championships, which has always been the goal.

Pants · 01-25-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Your logic is reeruned. I live in a suburb of Missouri that happens to be west of state line road. I wanted to live in a suburb of KC, and I do.

How is my logic reeruned? Are there no suburbs in Missouri? Do you not choose to live in Kansas?

Mr. Plow · 01-26-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Small wonder the SEC found us so appealing, then...

I shouldn't have, but I laughed.

Mr. Plow · 01-26-2012, 08:17 AM

Also....I love when these arguments devolve into "my city/state is better than yours". Next up...."the block I live on in city/state is better than the block you live on in city/state"

eazyb81 · 01-26-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

Actually I was referring to the real broad brush you were painting with regarding KU losing to MU in ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING... and then I proved you wrong.

Facts are facts. I eat crow when I get 'em wrong. You just get snide.

Do you know what hyperbole is?

No one actually thought ku literally lost to Mizzou at every single sport ever. But thanks for doing the crack work on that case, detective.

**Saul Good** · 01-31-2012, 09:32 AM

Mizzou goes 3-0 against Texas on the way out the door. To make things even better, the last game was in the Longhorns' barn where they covered up the Big XII logo with a Texas logo, so the floor read Texas XII.

Maybe we can play them in the conference tournament and beat them again. I'd say we should make it 5-0 in the postseason tournament, but that would mean we would have to play in the NIT.

By the time we leave, we will have the longest streak of getting both an NCAA tournament bid and a bowl game invite in the conference.

**Saul Good** · 01-31-2012, 09:32 AM

Mizzou goes 3-0 against Texas on the way out the door. To make things even better, the last game was in the Longhorns' barn where they covered up the Big XII logo with a Texas logo, so the floor read Texas XII.

Maybe we can play them in the conference tournament and beat them again. I'd say we should make it 5-0 in the postseason tournament, but that would mean we would have to play in the NIT.

By the time we leave, we will have the longest streak of getting both an NCAA tournament bid and a bowl game invite in the conference.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Mr. Plow In Search of a Life Mr. Plow's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2005	Also....I love when these arguments devolve into "my city/state is better than yours". Next up...."the block I live on in city/state is better than the block you live on in city/state"
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	Mizzou goes 3-0 against Texas on the way out the door. To make things even better, the last game was in the Longhorns' barn where they covered up the Big XII logo with a Texas logo, so the floor read Texas XII. Maybe we can play them in the conference tournament and beat them again. I'd say we should make it 5-0 in the postseason tournament, but that would mean we would have to play in the NIT. By the time we leave, we will have the longest streak of getting both an NCAA tournament bid and a bowl game invite in the conference.
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01-31-2012, 09:32 AM	#8370
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	Mizzou goes 3-0 against Texas on the way out the door. To make things even better, the last game was in the Longhorns' barn where they covered up the Big XII logo with a Texas logo, so the floor read Texas XII. Maybe we can play them in the conference tournament and beat them again. I'd say we should make it 5-0 in the postseason tournament, but that would mean we would have to play in the NIT. By the time we leave, we will have the longest streak of getting both an NCAA tournament bid and a bowl game invite in the conference.
Posts: 41,870