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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Bambi · 12-03-2011, 04:36 PM

The only teams that have left conferences are teams that have trouble winning. Not sure Texas sees themselves in that category yet.

WilliamTheIrish · 12-03-2011, 04:47 PM

Guess we'll just have to wait several months to find out. Right now, I'll wait for the KSU share of the flag.

kstater · 12-03-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

The only teams that have left conferences are teams that have trouble winning. Not sure Texas sees themselves in that category yet.

heh

Bambi · 12-03-2011, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

heh

Today not helping.

**Saul Good** · 12-03-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

The only teams that have left conferences are teams that have trouble winning. Not sure Texas sees themselves in that category yet.

Yeah, Boise State, Utah, Nebraska, TCU, etc. have really struggled to win.

KChiefs1 · 12-03-2011, 09:30 PM

Big 12 could have 3 BCS teams this season = OSU, TCU, WVU

KC native · 12-03-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Big 12 could have 3 BCS teams this season = OSU, TCU, WVU

It's going to be an either or for TCU and WVU. I don't think both can make it.

Valiant · 12-03-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

It was referring to 9 and 10 being TCU and WVU. Which, as of the meeting on Nov 1, had both been accepted and signed over rights on the day of that article.

I'll bow out of this thread while I watch KSU do their part to win a share of something Missouri hasn't done in 40 years.

Uhh, so having a worse record then the division leader gets you a share now?? Does that mean every team that won a division game gets a little peace?? Or are you meaning something else..

kchero · 12-04-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Uhh, so having a worse record then the division leader gets you a share now?? Does that mean every team that won a division game gets a little peace?? Or are you meaning something else..

Looks like okie state just killed his dream of having a pretend shared title. Even if ou would have won kstate was on the outside looking in due to the fact that the two teams they would have been "tied" with would have both beat them head to head.

kstater · 12-04-2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant

Uhh, so having a worse record then the division leader gets you a share now?? Does that mean every team that won a division game gets a little peace?? Or are you meaning something else..

If OU had won, KSU would have had a conference title, but they didn't. Consolation prize is BCS bowl. That sucks.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 12-04-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

It's going to be an either or for TCU and WVU. I don't think both can make it.

they can. WVU will be the AQ from the Big Least, TCU a black horse at large.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 12-04-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kchero

Looks like okie state just killed his dream of having a pretend shared title. Even if ou would have won kstate was on the outside looking in due to the fact that the two teams they would have been "tied" with would have both beat them head to head.

that's not how it works. Just as in basketball, the title is shared amongst all qualifying teams, whether it's 1 or 5.

RustShack · 12-04-2011, 11:42 AM

Isn't the Big12 getting two in this year still? Or is KState not making the cut? I'm pretty sure Oklahoma St. is going to the NC.

mnchiefsguy · 12-04-2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

Isn't the Big12 getting two in this year still? Or is KState not making the cut? I'm pretty sure Oklahoma St. is going to the NC.

You are the only one that seems to think OSU is headed there. Alabama is pretty entrenched in the #2 ranking.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-04-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott

If OU had won, KSU would have finished 3rd in the conference since they lost to both OSU an OU.

Sigh.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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