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Old 09-11-2022, 05:37 PM  
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Let’s talk about the Chargers

Quick turnaround. Amazon’s new platformed TNF

First thought: love the offense now. Worries about injuries and OT’s. Mack and Bosa had a combined 4.5 sacks today. But they played the Raiders OL.

They won but nearly lost to a bad team. Very beatable IMO
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:46 PM   #736
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lol what

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Old 12-14-2022, 07:00 PM   #737
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Old 12-14-2022, 07:10 PM   #738
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look at this ****ing fake and gay list

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who...-three-seasons

top 15 includes TANNEHILL, BORTLES, CARR, KYLER, DALTON
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Old 12-14-2022, 11:25 PM   #739
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He should demand a trade to a good team. He will never overtake Mahomes/Veach/Andy in the AFC.
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Old 12-15-2022, 07:23 AM   #740
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look at this ****ing fake and gay list

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who...-three-seasons

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Herbie's #1 in yards because he's #1 in attempts.

He's #18 in YPA. Not really all that impressive, honestly.

I still think he's really good though. He's top 8 at the absolute worst, IMO.
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Old 12-15-2022, 09:01 PM   #741
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I still think he's really good though. He's top 8 at the absolute worst, IMO.
Solid assessment.
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Old 12-15-2022, 09:11 PM   #742
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Herbie's #1 in yards because he's #1 in attempts.

He's #18 in YPA. Not really all that impressive, honestly.

I still think he's really good though. He's top 8 at the absolute worst, IMO.
Imagine he probably wouldn’t even own that stat if a Dr. hadn’t punctured Tyrod Taylor’s lung giving him a numbing shot.
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Old 12-15-2022, 09:12 PM   #743
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Solid assessment.
It really is. Chuggers D is no longer elite and Herbie is good but not good enough to carry you to a title.
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Old 12-15-2022, 09:48 PM   #744
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It really is. Chuggers D is no longer elite and Herbie is good but not good enough to carry you to a title.
Defense is the biggest piece of the puzzle, for sure.

2000 - Trent Dilfer + Ravens D = SB
Enough said.
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Old 12-15-2022, 10:36 PM   #745
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WTF are the Chargers missing on defense

"Defense isn't good enough!"

They've got a top 5 playmaking safety, some widely recognized stud veteran corners, a Bosa and Khalil Mack on DL, a defense-minded head coach who once got sneezed on by Sean McVay...

Like... what the hell more can they do? If Herbert can't win with that defense, then normally overrated and overquoted QB wins stat has a lot of merit in his case.
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Old 12-15-2022, 10:45 PM   #746
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I can't remember a year when the Chargers were healthy. That can't be right, but it sure feels that way.

On the rare occasions when most of them are healthy, they're a pretty good football team.

FYI note: both Brett Kollmann and JT O'Sullivan said that the LAC offense was pretty simple, 'lacked complexity,' I believe was the phrase. Also, Justin never runs, even though he's pretty good in the open field.

Between their organizational health and a self-limiting offense, it's kind of hard to evaluate how good they really are, imo.
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Old 12-16-2022, 07:29 AM   #747
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Solid assessment.
I sense sarcasm, but a lot of people think Herbert is wildly overrated.

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WTF are the Chargers missing on defense

"Defense isn't good enough!"

They've got a top 5 playmaking safety, some widely recognized stud veteran corners, a Bosa and Khalil Mack on DL, a defense-minded head coach who once got sneezed on by Sean McVay...

Like... what the hell more can they do? If Herbert can't win with that defense, then normally overrated and overquoted QB wins stat has a lot of merit in his case.
Big names or not, that defense generally underperforms. They're a bottom 5 rushing defense this season and they were bottom 3 last season.

EDIT: They're also a bottom 5 scoring defense this season as well as last season.

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Old 12-16-2022, 10:57 AM   #748
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They've played basically all year without Bosa, JC Jackson hasn't been good then got hurt and not James is hurt.
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:10 AM   #749
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They've played basically all year without Bosa, JC Jackson hasn't been good then got hurt and not James is hurt.
Has there ever been a season where both Bosa and james were on the field most/all of a season? I honestly don't remember one.
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Old 12-16-2022, 11:16 AM   #750
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No

ANd they're over the cap by 7 mil already next year. They're gonna have to have some blood letting. I'd imagine Mack is gone for sure.
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