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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.
See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP. Duncan's latest mock Site The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack. Draft slot: 29 Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey... 1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue. 1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota. 2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia. 2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn. 3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State. 3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State. 4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati. 4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee Scenario 1 Debrief: So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR. This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29... Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds. 1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. 2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State. 2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. 3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida. 3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State Scenario 2 Debrief: I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner. I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do. Scenario 3: Same movements as #2 1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State. 2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State. 2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. 3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State. 4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah Scenario 3 Debrief: This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits. In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop. Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks. Older mocks
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04-04-2022, 05:55 AM | #736 |
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29. Treylon Burks WR Arkansas-every mock I run lately, he's there. BPA at a position of need, and a good fit if Andy wants to get bigger at WR as he says. KC 30. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma-I'd been taking Wyatt here; but I think Winfrey profiles as a better Chris Jones replacement a year from now. For '22, on passing downs, your interior rush will be deadly. KC 50. Sam Williams EDGE Mississippi-grab a titty, drop to fitty. First round Edge talent heyah. KC 62. George Pickens WR Georgia-I'm not holding Hardman's slow development against Pickens. From what I see, I see a superior athlete, great hands, much better route runner than Hardman is even now. I think he's very close to the same prospect as a Jameson Williams-only Pickens is already healthy now. KC 94. Brian Asamoah II LB Oklahoma-Let's just finish off the LB corps here with another athletic 3 down capable guy. No more ****in' Niemann bullshit. KC 103. Jalyn Armour-Davis CB Alabama- Prototype Spags corner, with loads of experience. KC 121. Jeffrey Gunter EDGE Coastal Carolina-This guy reminds me a LOT of Maxx Crosby. Same type of player. Superb athlete dominated his competetion. KC 135. Pierre Strong Jr. RB South Dakota State-I think this kid could end up being one of the steals of the draft. |
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04-04-2022, 09:06 AM | #738 |
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Link - https://www.facebook.com/12798964724...7895035921062/ I sent 30, 62 and 2023 1st to the Washington Commanders for 11, 189 and a 2023 4th. Later, I sent 113 and the 2023 6th from Miami to New Orleans for 120, 160 and a 2023 5th. 11 - CB Sauce Gardner 29 - WR Treylon Burks 50 - DT Devonte Wyatt 94 - EDGE Nik Bonitto 120 - CB Zyon McCollum 121 - S Nick Cross 135 - RB Pierre Strong Jr. 160 - S Markquese Bell 189 - EDGE Josh Paschal 233 - DT Eyioma Ewazurike 243 - LB Jeremiah Moon 251 - OT Bam Olaseni 259 - NT Noah Elliss 2024 4th WAS 2024 5th NO I usually don't make any trades but once Sauce fell out of the top-10 I had to move. My only regret is I probably could've gotten a 2023 5th from WAS as well. My favorite picks are Wyatt at 50 and Bonitto at 94 along with Bell at 160 and Paschal at 189. I also like the nearly 700lbs of beef added to the trenches late on day-3 with Big Bam Olaseni (6'8" 330/88" wingspan) and Noah Elliss (6'4" 365). Bam is really intriguing...very raw and inexperienced still. Sort of scary to think what he might become with two to three years of NFL OL coaching. And Noah...man...if he could get DOWN TO around 340...he could be a problem. I really like this dude as a late day-3 or priority UDFA.
Overall, this is an obviously HIGHLY unlikely haul, especially with the way, the first few picks fell. Nonetheless, If this class were to actually happen I think most Chief fans would be pleased. : Last edited by SAGA45; 04-04-2022 at 09:20 AM.. |
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04-04-2022, 01:32 PM | #739 |
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I posted a new mock in the OP. May not be popular with folks, as I went against our current subforum wisdom and skipped over David Ojabo.
I'd be really excited with this run, though. The DE position gets an injection of upside and ability and Day 1, Game 1 impact. The WR position... same. I solidify S and DT long-term. And the CB room gets a combination of long-term upside in McCollum and savvy, good-fit CB in Bryant. |
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04-04-2022, 01:52 PM | #742 | |
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That was the original plan, but I missed on all those guys. Bryant was also such good value, and I could see him really outperforming his draft slot in this system. He’s savvy and smart and held up well despite playing opposite an elite CB and receiving the lion’s share of targets. |
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04-04-2022, 01:58 PM | #743 |
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So with TDN, the edge rusher that's consistently there for me is Mafe.
I find myself waiting until 50 to take a pass rusher more often than not. |
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04-04-2022, 02:33 PM | #744 |
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29. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State
30. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida 50. Cameron Thomas, EDGE, San Diego State 62. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn 94. Sam Williams, EDGE, Ole Miss 103. Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State 121. Nick Cross, S, Maryland 135. Max Mitchell, OT, Louisiana |
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04-04-2022, 02:39 PM | #745 |
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29. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan
30. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas 50. Cameron Thomas, EDGE, San Diego State 62. Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State 94. Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State 103. Phidarian Mathis, IDL, Alabama 121. Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State 135. Isaiah Thomas, EDGE, Oklahoma |
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The only "Dream world" change I'd make to this one is swapping Elam for Hill, but I'm guessing Hill was gone. |
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04-04-2022, 02:44 PM | #747 |
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I don’t love Mafe, but I’d take him at 29/30 and pair him with somebody like Thomas or Williams at 50 if Ojabo is off the board in the 1st.
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Olave was there but Hill was gone. Hell...if Hill and Elam were there...I may have just taken both of them. I'm over the whole WR in the first. I'll understand it if they do it...but I like the value better in other positions. |
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I just don't see it being likely there isn't a S (Hill, Brisker) or CB (Elam, Booth) or DE (Williams, Thomas) or DT (Winfrey, Jones) that is a better fit for what KC needs. |
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I just let the board fall to me without pushing for an ER and they went in front of me at the next pick by 5-6 picks every time. This one would assuredly piss off the masses...
29. Daxton Hill S, Michigan 30. Kaiir Elam CB, Florida 50. Travis Jones IDL, UConn 62. Nicholas Petit-Frere OT, Ohio State 94. Troy Andersen LB, Montana State 103. Myjai Sanders EDGE, Cincinnati 121. Bo Melton WR, Rutgers 135. Danny Gray WR, SMU 233. Amaré Barno EDGE, Virginia Tech 243. Smoke Monday S, Auburn 251. Zonovan Knight RB, NC State |
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