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There are dozens of other examples too. When someone says any band's music all sounds the same it just proves they haven't heard much or wasn't paying attention when they did. If all of Tool's songs sounded the same I seriously doubt they'd be selling out huge arenas still to this day well into their 50's.
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Maybe so, but I'm not into the whole art-queer for the sake of shock thing. Songs like 'Stinkfist" and "Prison Sex" just aren't my thing. Maybe you identify with that shit. "Not that there's anything wrong with that..." But the Beatles>>>>>>>Tool every single day of the week, AND they're not gay like Tool. |
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Drummers I like better than Danny Carey :
RINGO Mick Fleetwood Joe Winters Buddy Miles Buddy Rich Jimmy Chamberlain Brain Bob Burns Artimus Pyle Jaime Oldaker Anton Fig Phil Rudd CHRIS SLADE Steve Gorman Joe Magistro John Bonham Ginger Baker Matt Walker Kenny Aronoff Chad Smith Jackie Irons Dave Abbruzzese Matt Cameron Brit Turner Charlie Watts The guy from the ****ing Spin Doctors Jeff Sipe Eric Kretz Paul ****ing McCartney Martin Chambers Steven Adler Matt Sorum Sean Kinney Brad Morgan Chad Gamble George Sluppick Billy Kreutzmann Dennis Chambers Tommy ****ing Lee Dave ****ing Grohl Craig Wingate Brad Wilk Bill Ward Tommy Aldridge Lee Kerslake Joey Kramer Ralph Molina Jim Gordon Jim Keltner Taylor Hawkins Stephen Perkins Uncle John Turner Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish Rob Affuso Ginger Fish Vinnie Paul Eric Carr Eric Singer Neal Smith from the Original ACG Whitey Glan Nigel Olsson That's just off the top of my head. |
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"Carouselambra" (John Bonham)
"Close to the Edge" (Bill Bruford) and throw in "Rain" (Ringo Starr) A rock drumming holy trinity. |
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I sometimes think that the Danny Carey/Neil Peart style of drumming holds more interest for non-musicians/beginner-type drummers because it's flashier, it stands out more, so people think it's "better", just because they don't know any better. When I was in Junior High, I thought Mitch Mitchell was the best drummer ever, and from 66-68, he was great. But then, in 69-70, he expanded his kit to a double bass and the drugs kind of took over, and he started sounding like sneakers in a dryer. Something 12 year old me would have never admitted. Nowadays, I prefer the 'pocket' drummers. The guys with technique, taste, and control. I prefer Brain>Herb Alexander in Primus. Buddy Miles to Mitch Mitchell. It's a taste thing. Drummers who don't know when to shut up are annoying. I don't want to hear a drum solo in the context of a song. |
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I'm laughing because I used to the be the same exact way. When everyone was into KISS in 1977, I was into Brand X, Return to Forever (with both Al and Bill), George Benson, Al DiMeola, Rush, Yes and later, Saga, because all of those guys could play their asses off, so I learned every guitar lick note for note. I used to be into very technical drummers like Phil Collins, Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, Alan White and Billy Cobham. All of the drummers I played with were into those guys as well, with two of them owning a Ludwig Octaplus and couple of them owning clear blue Sonor drums. But as I became older, I began to dislike "busy" drummers and found that groove and simplicity was more to my liking than anyone that could copy a Neil Peart drum solo note-for-note. I still prefer schooled drummers versus non-schooled guys, with the Berkeley drummers as my personal fav's. I've played with a ton of players but the guys that were my favorites are Taylor Hawkins, Brian Tichy and Kevin Valentine, with the least favorite being Rikki Rocket (we jammed a few times at the old Palomino in NoHo and the guy just couldn't play in time). PS-Mitch Mitchell used to play all the time at the old Coconut Teaser when I first arrived in LA back in 1993 and I was soooooooooooo incredibly stoked to see him play live and man, was I disappointed. Plus, the guy just couldn't hold a conversation, so it was a bummer. The old adage of "Never meet your heroes" unfortunately applied in this case. |
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I LOVED Taylor Hawkins when he was in Alanis' band - Taylor, Chris Chaney on bass and Jesse Tobias on guitar...they could shred AND knew how to lay back and play a three chord acoustic tune. I saw Poison in 2012 with NY Dolls and Mötley Crüe and they surprised me - maybe the combination of low expectations, sobriety, and 20 years of actually learning how to play must've done them wonders. And yeah, I was all about those "note guys" when I was a kid, I thought Steve Vai was awesome when he was the devil's guitar player in Crossroads . I think it's a musical maturity thing, you know. I realized early on that I was never going to be the "fastest gun in the west", and then I switched to bass, because, let's face it, a decent bass player always has a gig. Because I like songs and just wanted to play music, so it didn't matter if I was playing all the licks. Playing music is like a football team, you know - not everyone gets to score the touchdown and be Patrick Mahomes. Bass players and drummers are the Oline of the band. The drummer shouldn't ever be the QB (but the drummer IS the QB of Rush and Tool)... Poor Mitch Mitchell. Not only did his playing deteriorate, but so did his brain, from all accounts I've heard. Those interview segments on the Hendrix DVDs had to be edited to make any sense...and even then, just barely. I remember one where he was describing a JHE tour, he pauses and goes 'it was...giant...craziness.' |
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Thrashing wildly all over the kit isn't what people love about Danny. Its his polyrhythms combined with offbeats. His insane ability to play in two and even three different time signatures at the same time with different limbs...the human body should not be capable of some of the shit that man does, but he does it seemingly without effort. I get why some people think it sounds weird and don't enjoy it, it took me a while to get into them too but I love the math and trying to count as he plays.
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