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Old Today, 01:28 PM   #61
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Flexibility seems to be the thing here.

Chenal isn't as fluid of an athlete in space as Gay was/is.
Chenal is much more of a LB that is comfortable physically taking on a OL than he is reading and reacting in space.
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Old Today, 01:29 PM   #62
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Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.
Yea Chenal isn't why Gay isn't here, Dru Tranquil and Cam Jones are how that happened.
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Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.
The elements that make up RAS are worth noting. The composite scores are dumb.
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Yea Chenal isn't why Gay isn't here, Dru Tranquil and Cam Jones are how that happened.
Little of A, little of B.

Without Chenal OR Tranquill, they're gonna need Gay back, IMO. The two of those combined can present most of what Gay could do. Chenal has the athleticism and straight line speed that Gay had, Tranquill the agility.

They used Gay pretty interchangeably between the Sam and the Will. Tranquill can't really play the Sam and I don't think you want Chenal playing the Will. If you don't have either guy, Gay fills the other side of Bolton.

But with both and more creative scheme/sub use, you can probably get what he gave you out of those two players.
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Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.
Yeah Gay could move. Dude brought energy too. I don’t know if the team responded to the way he played with his hair on fire, but the dude played with abandon. Chenal I think can do similar things, but to just write off Gay is probably selling what he brought a little short.

At the end of the year if you told me they missed Gay or the LB corps was several clicks better through better gap discipline, neither would surprise me.
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Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.
Yeah in space he was really good. Chenal is more stiff. Gay’s lateral agility and elite closing speed was very good so far.

He was such a sneaky weapon, especially on the pass rushes Spags would float in from time to time.
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faster 40, faster 20 yard split, faster 10 yard split, faster 3 cone, faster shuttle.
The splits are accurate, but Gay had the faster 40. He ran a 4.46, Chenal was at 4.53. Also Chenal's shuttle and 3 cone times are Pro Day numbers.
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Even with that RAS score they are completely different plays. Chenal has great workout numbers but he isn't incredibly comfortable in space.
Chenal is just strong. I swear I've heard people say he's the strongest player on the team, pound for pound. You could put him on the line and he'd hold his own against guys 50 pounds heavier than him.
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Nowhere close to as fluid as Gay.

Now if he has better awareness, it won't matter much (don't need to change directly as quickly and easily if you get to your spot every time). But don't sleep on Gay's ability to change directions with guys he has 40+ lbs on. He was damn impressive in that regard.

Chenal moves in straight lines and set angles. He's like trying to draw a picture with the straight line feature on Microsoft Paint.

Oh, and RAS is still ****ing reeruned.
The RAS chart is easy on the eyes and very digestible for a quick snapshot of a guy.

The actual RAS score is pretty dumb.
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