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Old 10-28-2021, 11:08 AM  
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Simms breaks down Mahomes' bad play
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Mahomes is sensing phantom pressure
Mahomes is not stepping into the pocket
The Oline is acutally playing well, Mahomes is prematurely rolling out
Mahomes is hanging Orlando Brown out to try and creating angles impossible for him to block
Mahomes is predetermining his reads. Possibly overthinking things too much


My takeway: If last week's performance was all about Mahomes then the Chiefs are about to go on a winning streak, because Mahomes will get his mind right. Ya'll ready for some W's?

Video starts around 6:20ish mark
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:48 PM   #61
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Yes, Mahomes is a one-read QB now.

Jesus this place is ****in stupid this week.
I haven’t seen a “Is Mahomes a System QB?” thread yet
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:48 PM   #62
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Yes, Mahomes is a one-read QB now.

Jesus this place is ****in stupid this week.
I'm thinking it's more a case of predetermining where he wants to go with the ball. He's clearly scanning the field when he's on the run so I'd never claim he's a one-read QB.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:50 PM   #63
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I want to see more shit like this quick-release throw to Tyreek vs. the Chargers in 2018:

https://youtu.be/pJJvCojYnK4?t=923
No one is playing that coverage against us anymore.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:53 PM   #64
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No one is playing that coverage against us anymore.
There are no opportunities for a quick-release throw to a receiver over the short middle?
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:57 PM   #65
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There are no opportunities for a quick-release throw to a receiver over the short middle?
There is, but it's shell coverage.

You see, in man to man, Tyreek catches the ball in stride and keeps running and its one cut and gone. No team dares to do this anymore.

Against shell coverage, it's the quick throw, 3 men converge, Tyreek runs backwards, infuriatingly almost every time, and is tackled for shorter gain than if he'd just catch and move forward and go down.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:57 PM   #66
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I'm thinking it's more a case of predetermining where he wants to go with the ball. He's clearly scanning the field when he's on the run so I'd never claim he's a one-read QB.
This.
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Old 10-28-2021, 03:38 PM   #68
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Nothing in that video is wrong, it's just partial. I think Mahomes is having some problems with his reads and his pocket presence. But there is absolutely no way Brown has been as an effective pass protector as Fisher was. We've all seen enough snaps where he's just plain lost, and Mahomes' drop depth is not the problem.

I don't think Brown has been as bad as some have suggested and there's probably points where he's looked bad but it's been for the reason Simms has noted. But not all the "phantom pressure" seems that phantom to me.
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Old 10-28-2021, 03:55 PM   #69
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Simms also mentioned inside-info on mahomes' toe not being right yet
I was surprised by that. Was the offseason surgery not successful or something? That is one of the last things I would have thought to blame his issues this year on.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:07 PM   #70
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I was surprised by that. Was the offseason surgery not successful or something? That is one of the last things I would have thought to blame his issues this year on.
Turf toe is a tendon injury. Like any tendon injury, it takes time to heal. Even after surgery. Tendons are slow healers. So it wouldn't be surprising that his surgery was successful, but still not healed to 100%.

Like an ACL. Surgery can be successful, but it's typical for players to still need a year before they can stop dealing with swelling of the tendon etc.

So while im sure the surgery went fine, there may be some lingering effects and it won't be FULLY healed till next season.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:32 PM   #71
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I hope the problem is mahomes and not the oline. Gonna be a nightmare to get two bookend tackles
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Nothing in that video is wrong, it's just partial. I think Mahomes is having some problems with his reads and his pocket presence. But there is absolutely no way Brown has been as an effective pass protector as Fisher was. We've all seen enough snaps where he's just plain lost, and Mahomes' drop depth is not the problem.

I don't think Brown has been as bad as some have suggested and there's probably points where he's looked bad but it's been for the reason Simms has noted. But not all the "phantom pressure" seems that phantom to me.
Couldn't agree more with every single word

Its not a hot take placing undue blame on any one side, just the plain truth... and the truth is reality usually lies somewhere in the middle

These players don't exist in a vacuum, everything is sooo symbiotic... thats why its the ultimate team game
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Simms isn't saying anything that logical people haven't already said.

Right now it's just a snowball effect.

The line is bigger at the edge and can't roll back forever as Pat drifts around behind the line. Pat isn't stepping up because he wants to buy time to go deeper. Going deeper isn't happening because they don't have what it takes currently to bust the extra coverage. Pat gets frustrated and starts chucking shit as short routes aren't appealing when the Defense is an automatic 7.

Pat needs to drive the ball from inside the pocket but the coaches need to figure out how to get some receivers open to allow him to.
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sensing phantom pressure

rolling out too soon

Seems I've heard that before?
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sensing phantom pressure

rolling out too soon

Seems I've heard that before?
he learned from the best
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