***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RINGLEADER]

Politicians are going to be political and any smart politician is going to say this is the end of the world. That way when it isn’t they get to take credit. That’s a non-partisan observation.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Dominos is giving me the squirts and I'm down to half a roll of TP

I've got 28 rolls and 96 to be delivered Tuesday!

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Yes. It slowed. I did not say anything about measures used to accomplish it.

Originally Posted by SupDock

Did you read the article?

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China did great work and managed to gain complete control of the virus, Levitt said. “Currently, I am most worried about the US. It must isolate as many people as possible to buy time for preparations. Otherwise, it can end up in a situation where 20,000 infected people will descend on the nearest hospital at the same time and the healthcare system will collapse.”

Israel currently does not have enough cases to provide the data needed to make estimates, Levitt said, but from what he can tell, the Ministry of Health is dealing with the pandemic in a correct, positive way. “The more severe the defensive measures taken, the more they will buy time to prepare for needed treatment and develop a vaccine.”

Levitt avoids making global forecasts. In China, he said, the number of new infections will soon reach zero, and South Korea is past the median point and can already see the end. Regarding the rest of the world, it is still hard to tell, he said. “It will end when all those who are sick will only meet people they have already infected. The goal is not to reach the situation the cruise ship experienced.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

Call me bud. I'll cheer your ass up.

I appreciate the offer, but I'll be alright.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oops, my mistake, sorry. I get the math, but we do have some pretty solid case history from other countries who got the bug long before we did to work with, and I simply don't see it.

I think we should start a new thread giving predictions of total US cases. The winner gets a lifetime supply of TP.

LOL

I think we’ll have several hundred thousand confirmed cases and 10x - 200x that in asymptomatic and mild cases.

[eDave]

David's Hamburgers is giving away a free domestic beer, or well drink, for a roll of TP or box facial tissue.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oops, my mistake, sorry. I get the math, but we do have some pretty solid case history from other countries who got the bug long before we did to work with, and I simply don't see it.

I think we should start a new thread giving predictions of total US cases. The winner gets a lifetime supply of TP.

We have had 4000+ new cases today in the entire country. Yes I fully expect that to keep climbing as testing increases.

BUT that means either 1/2 the freaking country is walking around with this and are yet to be tested and are not going to the ER or otherwise passing away or a much smaller group has it and mitigation should hopefully prove effective.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

LOL

I think we’ll have several hundred thousand confirmed cases and 10x - 200x that in asymptomatic and mild cases.

Think about this for a second....

With all the mitigation steps taking place right now for us to get into the several hundred thousand number either a shit load of people already have it and we don't know it and they in large part don't either, or mitigation isn't going to prove effective.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

Call me bud. I'll cheer your ass up.

Scho’s excess whores?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I've got 28 rolls and 96 to be delivered Tuesday!

X2 I assume you got 2 ply

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

David's Hamburgers is giving away a free domestic beer, or well drink, for a roll of TP or facial tissue.

barter system in place before a societal Breakdown?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

LOL

I think we’ll have several hundred thousand confirmed cases and 10x - 200x that in asymptomatic and mild cases.

China, a country of a billion people, only has 81,000 confirmed cases and you think we at least triple that with a third of the population?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Two Lakers players have tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. The team may test the remaining players who did not take tests Wednesday morning.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) March 19, 2020

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am gonna nitpick here a bit again, since I don't understand numbers but the current estimated population of the state of CA is 39.94 million. 56% of that is 21.8 million. He said 25 million or roughly 56%.

Okay, just had to toss that out there....

That number is from the last census so maybe he's assuming the 2020 census has increased numbers?


My only basis is driving on the 405 so I'll say yes, hmmm that seems to fit with my experience

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

barter system in place before a societal Breakdown?

I've already traded TP for beer at the drive thru liquor store.

I doubled my money too.

Dumbasses!