***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

And why aren’t more people talking about it? I can hardly find any coverage on it...

I think the study was just published but the manufacturer said they are willing to supply from their stocks.

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/juliatcheek/stat...516872193?s=21

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

didnt they hide that there was an issue for a month until it became so widespread that the western world noticed and then the finally came clean?

I don't know, BRC. Just going with my gut.


There is so much distrust anymore, I honestly don't know.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by TLO

We know we're gonna see a spike in numbers. At least, that seems very logical. ( But maybe by some miracle we won't see a huge spike outside of areas already hit hard)

These are dark times. I feel as though I'm going to lose loved ones around me, if not my own life. Maybe I'm overreacting, but today I'm thinking more clearly than I have for 2 weeks. All I want to do is stay home. I want to gather up my family and try to keep them all safe. Quit my job, whatever. (Though this is probably the worst thing we could possibly do)

I feel so bad for those who have already lost loved ones. May they find peace and comfort.

I hear ya man.

I have three aunts and two uncles all over 80, one 90. I have a cousin who has lived in China for over 30 years. He was going to move his family back here, but she would only be allowed to live in the states for ten years. They were recently in Mongolia, and she went back to China before him to be with her parents, then the virus broke and now he is stuck there and can't get back into China.

It's scary but we'll be ok. One of the sliver linings we can possibly take from this your approach of us all taking a step back, refocus on what's important and love on our families and each other. Sometimes it felt that the world was barreling down the road a little too fast.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/juliatcheek/stat...516872193?s=21

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1/ UPDATE 🙌 My proudest day ever at @everly_well is today. We’re launching the first solution in the U.S. to get tested and diagnosed for #COVID-19 from your home on Monday, March 23. https://t.co/FpKEGxrmPd

— Julia Cheek (@JuliaTCheek) March 19, 2020

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/jtasioulas/statu...629699595?s=21

Thanks brc

Here’s another one

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/jtasioulas/statu...629699595?s=21

Thanks brc

Here’s another one

Oxford University scientists develop coronavirus test which can give results in just 30 minutes https://t.co/ARX6439HW2

— John Tasioulas (@JTasioulas) March 18, 2020

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

And why aren’t more people talking about it? I can hardly find any coverage on it...

https://twitter.com/RiganoESQ

Here’s a good place to start

[O.city]

I’m damn impressed with the reactions to this. Everyone thought the world was ****ed in the age of social media and stuff

Shit hits the fan and we pull our heads out and start caring for each other and getting shit done

**** I’m proud

[DJ's left nut]

****ing science, man.

And seriously - if I hear anyone else bitch about calling this the "Chinese Flu" I'm gonna kick 'em in the dick.

Had the west known 2 months ago what they know now, this shit flat doesn't happen. A little public shaming is more than in order.
The world writ large oughta send these assholes the bill similar to how we wrapped up WWI (let's not consider its repercussions).

The response to this disease once we recognized it's significance has to be something similar to how the space race went for those who are old enough to remember it.

This stuff is coming at a breakneck pace and it's a remarkable testament to our scientific community.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/RiganoESQ

Here’s a good place to start

UPDATE:

Full peer reviewed study has been released by Didier Raoult MD, PhD https://t.co/DzFTv13wYn.

After 6 days 100% of patients treated with HCQ + Azithromycin were virologically cured

p-value <.0001https://t.co/vttAIWbPwJ

— Gregory Rigano (@RiganoESQ) March 18, 2020

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by notorious

I don't know, BRC. Just going with my gut.


There is so much distrust anymore, I honestly don't know.

Nobody trusts China. That’s why I LMFAO awhile back when they talked about creating their own world currency. Xi is determined to rule the world. A very dangerous man. If the world needs to unite in anything taking this guy out.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

****ing science, man.

And seriously - if I hear anyone else bitch about calling this the "Chinese Flu" I'm gonna kick 'em in the dick.

Had the west known 2 months ago what they know now, this shit flat doesn't happen. The response to this disease once we recognized it's significance has to be something similar to how the space race went for those who are old enough to remember it.

This stuff is coming at a breakneck pace and it's a remarkable testament to our scientific community.

One of my buddies I went to college with and am close with is in cancer research at Ku med. Dude is really a sharp mofo.

I talked to him the other day about this and how they’re predicting this and that.

He said “the whole ****ing worlds science community is taking aim at that little ****ing virus and they’re all United, it doesn’t stand a chance”

Everyone is full steam on this thing. They’ve started potentially producing prophylactic antibody treatments already. We got it serology down now. It’s ****ed

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Nobody can believe anything Governments say. They are the worst.

That’s better

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

****ing science, man.

And seriously - if I hear anyone else bitch about calling this the "Chinese Flu" I'm gonna kick 'em in the dick.

Had the west known 2 months ago what they know now, this shit flat doesn't happen. A little public shaming is more than in order.
The world writ large oughta send these assholes the bill similar to how we wrapped up WWI (let's not consider its repercussions).

The response to this disease once we recognized it's significance has to be something similar to how the space race went for those who are old enough to remember it.

This stuff is coming at a breakneck pace and it's a remarkable testament to our scientific community.

one thing I hope comes out of this mess is the public’s renewed appreciation of the value that science and scientists can bring to our lives.