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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.
See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP. Duncan's latest mock Site The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack. Draft slot: 29 Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey... 1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue. 1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota. 2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia. 2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn. 3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State. 3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State. 4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati. 4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee Scenario 1 Debrief: So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR. This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29... Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds. 1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. 2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State. 2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. 3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida. 3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State Scenario 2 Debrief: I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner. I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do. Scenario 3: Same movements as #2 1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State. 2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State. 2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. 3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State. 4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah Scenario 3 Debrief: This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits. In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop. Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks. Older mocks
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03-31-2022, 03:34 PM | #646 |
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Yeah - draft needs to get here. This stuff is getting boring.
29: Jermaine Johnson 30: Devonte Wyatt 54: Jalen Pitre 78: Cameron Thomas 85: Jalen Tolbert 94: Calvin Austin 99: Jeremy Ruckert (this is dumb, we won't be carrying 5 TEs) 103: Troy Anderson 135: Alontae Taylor Skipped the rest - just don't care. So I made a couple little trade downs to pick up 3rd rounders (I think). Sam Williams went 53 when I forgot my solemn vow to take him at 50 and accepted a trade down, but Pitre would be a heck of a consolation prize and it left me open to take Cameron Thomas when he kept sliding. But man - who knows? Who cares at this point? These are fun at the beginning when you're getting your opinions set with guys but now I just feel like I'm playing simulator roulette. |
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03-31-2022, 03:35 PM | #647 |
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29. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas
30. David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan 50. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn 62. Sam Williams, EDGE, Ole Miss 94. Josh Williams, CB, Fayetteville State 103. Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State 121. Isaiah Thomas, EDGE, Oklahoma 135. Max Mitchell, OT, Louisiana 233. Smoke Monday, S, Auburn 243. Ty Chandler, RB, North Carolina 251. Kevin Austin Jr., WR, Notre Dame Three DEs might be overkill but I'm under the assumption that Ojabo gets a redshirt year. That would mean that your DEs look like: 2022: Clark, Danna, Kaindoh, Williams and Thomas 2023: Williams, Thomas, Ojabo, Danna and Kaindoh I would also probably be sacrificing 135 for James Bradberry and a later pick. |
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03-31-2022, 03:37 PM | #648 | |
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I also try and take guys that I know are about in that spot. Like in the PFF mock draft....you can usually get Sam Williams in the late 3rd to early 4th. I'll take him in the 2nd round because I think that's where he's going to go. And weirdly....Zyon McCollum on The Draft Network's site is now going in the 7th round. |
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03-31-2022, 03:41 PM | #649 | |
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03-31-2022, 03:41 PM | #650 |
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So I wonder how pissed off this one would get some folks:
29: Devonte Wyatt 32: David Ojabo 50: Travis Jones 62: Jalen Pitre 66: John Metchie (man I'm happy to see many appear to have forgotten about this kid) 103: Greg Dulcich 121: Brian Asamoah 135: Pierre Strong I stand by my original position - just keep the picks or add more of them. The draft is so deep. It's gonna be hard to screw this up too badly. |
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03-31-2022, 03:42 PM | #651 | |
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03-31-2022, 03:42 PM | #652 | |
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This draft is unique in that every analyst is all over the place on how to order these guys. If 3-4 QBs go before our pick, that’s gonna push a guy like Johnson down. Possibly right in our laps. There are always going to be 25% or more teams drafting for need and not BPA…that greatly benefits us every time it happens. You never know…the safety from ND (Hamilton) could slip into the teens after running a slow 40 at the combine and slower at his pro day. You just never know. |
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03-31-2022, 03:43 PM | #653 | |
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03-31-2022, 03:43 PM | #654 |
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You must account for next year's draft and gather a surplus there too concerning trading down from #29 or #30
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03-31-2022, 03:44 PM | #655 | |
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03-31-2022, 03:48 PM | #656 |
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03-31-2022, 09:09 PM | #657 |
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Thought this could fit in here...
NFL draft tier rankings 2022: Highest-graded prospects for this class from Todd McShay and Scouts Inc.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2022/i...hay-scouts-inc Tier 1: No prospects Tier 2: Nine prospects Grades between 92 and 94. A notch below the elite class but still considered a plug-and-play NFL starter with high-level potential. Worthy of a top-15 pick most years. I had nine players in this tier in 2021. 1. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan (94) 2. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State (93) 3. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama (93) 4. Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame (93) 5. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati (93) 6. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State (92) 7. Kayvon Thibodeaux, DE, Oregon (92) 8. Travon Walker, DE, Georgia (92) 9. Drake London, WR, USC (92) Tier 3: 14 prospects Grades between 90 and 91. Good NFL starters and are considered strong values in the bottom half of Round 1 in any given draft class. I had 15 players in this tier in 2021. 10. Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State (91) 11. Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU (91) 12. Nakobe Dean, ILB, Georgia (91) 13. Devin Lloyd, ILB, Utah (91) 14. Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington (90) 15. Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State (90) 16. Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia (90) 17. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (90) 18. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (90) 19. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama (90) 20. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia (90) 21. Malik Willis, QB, Liberty (90) 22. Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh (90) 23. Daxton Hill, S, Michigan (90) Tier 4: 22 prospects Grades between 85 and 89. Good future NFL starters. Second-round value. I had 20 players in this tier in 2021. 24. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue (89) 25. Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa (89) 26. Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas (89) 27. Kenyon Green, G, Texas A&M (89) 28. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State (89) 29. Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson (89) 30. David Ojabo, OLB, Michigan (88) 31. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington (88) 32. Boye Mafe, OLB, Minnesota (88) 33. Zion Johnson, G, Boston College (88) 34. Matt Corral, QB, Mississippi (88) 35. Quay Walker, ILB, Georgia (87) 36. Desmond Ridder, QB, Cincinnati (87) 37. Christian Harris, ILB, Alabama (86) 38. Arnold Ebiketie, DE, Penn State (86) 39. Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut (86) 40. Logan Hall, DE, Houston (86) 41. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor (86) 42. Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan (85) 43. Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan (85) 44. Kenneth Walker III, RB, Michigan State (85) 45. Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (85) Tier 5: 21 prospects Grades between 80 and 84. Future solid to good NFL starters but might need to serve in substitution package/situational roles early in career. Mid- to late-second-round value. I had 17 players in this tier in 2021. 46. Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State (84) 47. Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida (84) 48. Leo Chenal, ILB, Wisconsin (84) 49. Phidarian Mathis, DT, Alabama (84) 50. Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina (84) 51. Perrion Winfrey, DT, Oklahoma (84) 52. Lewis Cine, S, Georgia (84) 53. Nick Cross, S, Maryland (83) 54. Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn (83) 55. Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (83) 56. Nik Bonitto, OLB, Oklahoma (83) 57. George Pickens, WR, Georgia (83) 58. Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa (82) 59. Trey McBride, TE, Colorado State (82) 60. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota (82) 61. Drake Jackson, OLB, USC (81) 62. DeMarvin Leal, DE, Texas A&M (81) 63. John Metchie III, WR, Alabama (81) 64. DeAngelo Malone, OLB, Western Kentucky (80) 65. Chad Muma, ILB, Wyoming (80) 66. Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State (80) Tier 6: 40 prospects Grades between 70 and 79. Project as future solid starters but need time to develop, have limited upside or come with red flags. Third-round value. I had 50 players in this tier in 2021. 67. Damone Clark, ILB, LSU (79) 68. Dylan Parham, G, Memphis (79) 69. Kerby Joseph, S, Illinois (79) 70. Troy Andersen, ILB, Montana State (79) 71. Cameron Thomas, DE, San Diego State (79) 72. Wan'Dale Robinson, WR, Kentucky (79) 73. Josh Paschal, DE, Kentucky (78) 74. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati (78) 75. Tariq Woolen, CB, UTSA (78) 76. Myjai Sanders, DE, Cincinnati (77) 77. Channing Tindall, ILB, Georgia (77) 78. Cole Strange, G, Chattanooga (77) 79. Greg Dulcich, TE, UCLA (77) 80. Calvin Austin III, WR, Memphis (77) 81. Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati (77) 82. Nicholas Petit-Frere, OT, Ohio State (76) 83. Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama (76) 84. Velus Jones Jr., WR, Tennessee (75) 85. Amare Barno, OLB, Virginia Tech (75) 86. JT Woods, S, Baylor (74) 87. James Cook, RB, Georgia (74) 88. Isaiah Likely, TE, Coastal Carolina (74) 89. Khalil Shakir, WR, Boise State (74) 90. Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston (73) 91. Cameron Jurgens, C, Nebraska (73) 92. JoJo Domann, S, Nebraska (73) 93. Carson Strong, QB, Nevada (73) 94. Sean Rhyan, G, UCLA (73) 95. Kingsley Enagbare, OLB, South Carolina (73) 96. Luke Goedeke, OT, Central Michigan (72) 97. Brandon Smith, ILB, Penn State (72) 98. Kellen Diesch, OT, Arizona State (71) 99. Dai'Jean Dixon, WR, Nicholls State (71) 100. Josh Jobe, CB, Alabama (71) 101. Marcus Jones, CB, Houston (70) 102. Dohnovan West, C, Arizona State (70) 103. Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia (70) 104. Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati (70) 105. Luke Fortner, C, Kentucky (70) 106. Brian Asamoah, ILB, Oklahoma (70) |
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03-31-2022, 09:14 PM | #658 |
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Booth and Ojabo slot in perfectly at 29 and 30.
I’d be more than happy with 2 picks like that. |
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29. Andrew Booth Jr. CB Clemson KC 30. David Ojabo EDGE Michigan KC 50. Travis Jones DT Connecticut KC 62. Cameron Thomas EDGE San Diego State KC 94. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis KC 103. Verone McKinley S Oregon KC 124. Troy Andersen LB Montana State trade icon KC 135. Alontae Taylor CB Tennessee KC 186. Max Mitchell OT Louisiana trade icon KC 233. Josh Jobe CB Alabama KC 243. Logan Bruss OT Wisconsin KC 251. Zach VanValkenburg |
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