***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

‘Friends’ Reunion Special at HBO Max Delayed Due to Coronavirus Concerns

The planned “Friends” reunion special at HBO Max is the latest victim of the production shutdown caused by the coronavirus outbreak.

Variety has confirmed with sources that filming of the special has been delayed. It was due to film within the next week but it has now been pushed to May at the earliest. The special is the latest in a long line of film and TV productions that have been delayed due to the ongoing pandemic.

Warner Bros. Television and HBO Max declined to comment.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/fri...us-1203538525/

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is extremely discomfiting:

Just received word from an ICU doctor at a small NY hospital: They are officially out of ventilators and are now double venting patients with COVID (using the same ventilator for 2 infected patients). Do everything possible to avoid infection. PLEASE ISOLATE as best you can.

— Peter Attia (@PeterAttiaMD) March 18, 2020

KC is preparing to be out of ICU beds with everyone on a vent by the weekend.

We tried that in school on dummies. None of us could pull it off without damaging the dummy. I’m sure the vents are 1000% better but no matter how much tech is better, that’s a very bad situation.

[007]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Doctors, nurses and RT’s working with known positive coronavirus patients can’t get tested. Supposedly they are going to the front of the line for testing now. We shall see.



The caregivers are positive, but don’t know, can’t get a test and then work with other patients. What could go wrong? China says 86% of people that tested positive never had any symptoms.



I took care of patients with TB. We took every precaution. We didn’t slack off at all. I had to get tested every week.

Don't forget about the registrar's that have first contact with every patient. It's getting very stressful.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

KC is preparing to be out of ICU beds with everyone on a vent by the weekend.

We tried that in school on dummies. None of us could pull it off without damaging the dummy. I’m sure the vents are 1000% better but no matter how much tech is better, that’s a very bad situation.

Damn, really? My dad said KC only had 2 cases, but pretty sure that was just KCMO (and could be outdated).

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

KC is preparing to be out of ICU beds with everyone on a vent by the weekend.
n.

You must be KC Missouri, as local news in Wichita states only 11 verified Cases in Johnson County?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

KC is preparing to be out of ICU beds with everyone on a vent by the weekend.

We tried that in school on dummies. None of us could pull it off without damaging the dummy. I’m sure the vents are 1000% better but no matter how much tech is better, that’s a very bad situation.

By this weekend? Is KC really considered that much of a "hotspot" right now?

[Titty Meat]

Any chance the death rates might be lower here because we have outstanding medical staff include ER doctors?

[srvy]

Originally Posted by eDave

KC Zoo has a live feed of the penguins. Enjoy:

These birds are boring. Check the Chicago Aquarium I cant think of the name now they have one of these. They have run of the place and they are pretty interested in the fish swimming as the watch through the glass.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Any chance the death rates might be lower here because we have outstanding medical staff include ER doctors?

Sure, unless they're totally overrun and can't care for people.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Was hoping for more sex, thanks though

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by farmerchief

You must be KC Missouri, as local news in Wichita states only 11 verified Cases in Johnson County?

Joco has already said they wont be testing new patients unless you're basically dying

[KCUnited]

Ya Chicago aquarium shut down to public and open it up to the penguins to tour. Not sure about a live feed though.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Adam Silver says that 8 full NBA teams have been tested for COVID-19, along with some individuals showed symptoms. He continued, "My sense was -- especially among young people in the US -- people were not taking these protocols all that seriously until the NBA did what it did."

— Malika Andrews (@malika_andrews) March 18, 2020

8 full teams money talks

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Ya Chicago aquarium shut down to public and open it up to the penguins to tour. Not sure about a live feed though.

Don't say something like this unless you got a live feed to back it up. Otherwise it's just cruel.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Damn, really? My dad said KC only had 2 cases, but pretty sure that was just KCMO (and could be outdated).

remember, we have no testing. how many have been infected. Without testing, they are planning blind. they are just planning right now. That’s what hospitals do. Try to imagine worst case scenerio and then plan for that. The ICU’s in 3 hospitals are already full with “normal” health issues.