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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 03-31-2022, 10:16 AM   #631
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I think if you do that then you don't have any faith in Thornhill.
I also think this is on the table, so to speak.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:29 AM   #632
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I think if you do that then you don't have any faith in Thornhill. I think a trio of Reid, Thornhill and a mid round safety is an upgrade from last year. S in the first is wasteful IMO
You mean like Spags benching Thornhill to start the season for Sorensen?

I'm a huge fan of Thornhill but I'm not sure that Spags is at this point.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:31 AM   #633
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You mean like Spags benching Thornhill to start the season for Sorensen?

I'm a huge fan of Thornhill but I'm not sure that Spags is at this point.
I like Thornhill too but let's be real, he hasn't been the same since he got hurt his rookie year.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:31 AM   #634
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I think the theme of this draft is a complete replenishing of the defense, particularly the DL and secondary.

I think we could be looking at multiple DL, multiple DB’s and a WR with our first 5 picks.

But again I wouldn’t be shocked to see Andy use one of these extra picks on a RT if a good one is available
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:36 AM   #635
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The closer we get to the draft the more I believe we’re going defense with both 1st rd picks.

Also would not be surprised if we got Bradberry and drafted a good corner at 29 or 30.

With WR and DE runs happening it really opens up a ton of value for corners at the end of the first.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:46 AM   #636
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The closer we get to the draft the more I believe we’re going defense with both 1st rd picks.

Also would not be surprised if we got Bradberry and drafted a good corner at 29 or 30.

With WR and DE runs happening it really opens up a ton of value for corners at the end of the first.
I'm leaning towards trading for Bradberry and then going S and DE in the 1st. Not saying that's what I would prefer....just that is what I see happening.
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:50 AM   #637
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You mean like Spags benching Thornhill to start the season for Sorensen?

I'm a huge fan of Thornhill but I'm not sure that Spags is at this point.
Yea because that had that defense humming to start the season.

I am basing my opinion on pre injury Juan Thornhill though
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Old 03-31-2022, 10:53 AM   #638
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Which is fine...but I still don't see two DEs and two WRs with our first four picks.
Veach has been pretty damn good with extracting value from the draft and his specific comments about these position groups leads me to think that’s what he’d like to do. Definitely 1 WR in the first 4 picks and at least 2DL…but it all depends on how the draft unfolds. I can see scenarios where his first 5 picks are WR, CB and DL.

I’m sure he’s looking at the next 2 seasons when he’s making these early picks.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:06 PM   #639
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30.

Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia
KC
43.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
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KC
50.

George Pickens
WR Georgia
KC
58.

Jalen Pitre
S Baylor
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KC
62.

Kyler Gordon
CB Washington
KC
94.

Quay Walker
LB Georgia
KC
103.

Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama
KC
121.

Braxton Jones
OT Southern Utah
KC
135.

Charlie Kolar
TE Iowa State
KC
233.

Jack Sanborn
LB Wisconsin
KC
243.

Ty Chandler
RB North Carolina
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Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:07 PM   #640
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The closer we get to the draft the more I believe we’re going defense with both 1st rd picks.

Also would not be surprised if we got Bradberry and drafted a good corner at 29 or 30.

With WR and DE runs happening it really opens up a ton of value for corners at the end of the first.
We don't really prioritize corner. We just don't. I'd be really surprised.

But I've been really surprised a lot lately, so who knows?
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:08 PM   #641
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At the end of the day, I think Bradberry ends up a Chief.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:11 PM   #642
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At the end of the day, I think Bradberry ends up a Chief.
I would assume it’s happening.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:17 PM   #643
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Only way I see them going DB in round 1 is IF they go with a safety. Brisker, Hill, and Pitre all offer some reasonable and logical value there.

I just don't see CB, unless both the Bradberry and the Gilmore plans fall through, and I can't see why they both would.

First four picks (if they keep all 1st and 2nd picks) are going to be some combination of:

(1) WR + (1) DT + (1-2 DE) + (1 S)

I'm confident it's going to be at least 1 WR and at least one DE, so basically I guess we're looking at:

WR, DE, DE, S
WR, DE, DE, DT
WR, DE, DT, S

Going to be fun. Lot of exciting options there.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:28 PM   #644
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At the end of the day, I think Bradberry ends up a Chief.
Evidently we’re the only ones offering draft pick compensation.

I’d like to know how those conversations go and how they decide how much cap is worth what pick.

I’d be ok sending a 4th and getting a 5th back if they eat half that salary.
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Old 03-31-2022, 03:14 PM   #645
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The edges I liked in this draft kept getting taken right in front of me. It's hard for me to not take a DE with on of the first two picks

29.
Kansas City Chiefs
Treylon Burks
WR, Arkansas

30.
Kansas City Chiefs
Perrion Winfrey
IDL, Oklahoma

50.
Kansas City Chiefs
Roger McCreary
CB, Auburn

62.
Kansas City Chiefs
Kingsley Enagbare
EDGE, South Carolina

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Kansas City Chiefs
JoJo Domann
LB, Nebraska

103.
Kansas City Chiefs
Wan'Dale Robinson
WR, Kentucky

121.
Kansas City Chiefs
Cordell Volson
OT, North Dakota State

135.
Kansas City Chiefs
Alex Wright
EDGE, UAB

233.
Kansas City Chiefs
Amaré Barno
EDGE, Virginia Tech

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Kansas City Chiefs
Jermaine Waller
CB, Virginia Tech

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Kansas City Chiefs
Keaontay Ingram
RB, USC
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