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07-05-2023, 11:08 AM | #64081 |
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I don't think a reasonable person gives Manning much credit for the 2015 SB. And yes, Manning has better stats, but Favre played a bunch of seasons in a less QB-friendly era (the mantra of Broncos fans). I think you can make a case for either.
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07-05-2023, 12:29 PM | #64082 |
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Only 1 took illegal HGH to extend a career that was over otherwise. Anything that happened in pile high doesn't count
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07-05-2023, 12:30 PM | #64083 |
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Corporate sponsors demanded that superfarce
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07-05-2023, 12:36 PM | #64084 | |
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07-05-2023, 12:38 PM | #64085 | |
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07-05-2023, 12:42 PM | #64086 | |
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Manning got pretty lucky. He won against Rex Grossman, arguably one of the worst QB's to ever play in a SB, then was carried by an amazing defense. For someone to talented and smart, he really didn't look like it in the biggest moments. |
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07-05-2023, 12:43 PM | #64087 | |
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07-05-2023, 12:45 PM | #64088 |
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**** Peyton Manning
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07-05-2023, 01:06 PM | #64089 |
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07-05-2023, 02:20 PM | #64091 |
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Manning and Mahomes in the postseason at this stage of their careers:
Manning ------------ 8 games 3-5 record 14 TDs/8 INT 2172 yds 271.5 yds/game 0 SB appearances 0 SB wins/MVPs Mahomes ------------- 14 games 11-3 record 35 TDs/7 INT 4084 yds 291.7 yds/game 3 SB appearances 2 SB wins/2 SB MVPs |
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07-05-2023, 02:25 PM | #64092 | |
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07-05-2023, 03:04 PM | #64093 | |
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13/23, 141 yds, 6.1 avg 0 TDs/1 INT 2 fumbles 5 sacks 56.6 rating |
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07-05-2023, 10:02 PM | #64094 |
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All I will say is this, at the time of his retirement after the 1998 season...
#1 All-Time Wins (now 7th) #3 All-Time Passing TDs (now 13) #2 All-Time Passing Yards (now 12) 2-3 overall in SBs Just outside the top 10 in INTs. Was the most sacked QB all-time The last 25 years has seen a lot of change with the passing rules and style of play. I'm not here to stop the piling on, please have fun with it... just saying that at the time he retired, he was at the top of the most significant categories and a few of the not so great. It happens. Biggest change for Elway was moving on from Reeves and ultimately getting Shanahan. |
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07-05-2023, 10:47 PM | #64095 | |
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Do you at least agree that the “Reeves didn’t throw” narrative is way overblown? Elway was often top 5ish in pass attempts under him. |
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