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***OFFICIAL Patrick Mahomes GIF thread***
AKA GIF'D UP: Franchise QB Edition.
Complete with smooth, clean, CP-exclusive GIFs and bullshit analysis from the guy who stroked off Cassel. 2017: Preseason Game #1 2017: Preseason Game #2, Drive #1 2017: Preseason Game #2, Drive #2 2017: Preseason Game #3, Various plays in Posts 198-203 2017: Preseason Game #4, Various plays in Posts 292 and 294 THERE ARE NO BRAKES ON THIS TRAIN Last edited by Hammock Parties; 10-07-2018 at 11:37 PM.. |
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#616 |
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I mentioned it in one of the draft threads on Mahomes but man this puts it into perfect focus.
The baseball background with him is remarkably obvious. A baseball player is going to have 15 different arm angles he can throw from (especially if he ever played infield). They can sling it from a dozen different throwing platforms and with their bodies pointed in all kinds of weird directions. Lifelong 'Quarterback only' guys don't do that. They're mechanically precise and clean as can be in their delivery, but the maelstrom will kill them because they need a steady throwing platform. Mahomes arm strength is unique but it took the baseball training for him to be able to make some of those crazy ass flip throws he's making with his body all contorted. Dude's a rush, man. Side note - he still throws off his back foot without needing to more often than I'd like. Small nit to pick but he does it. He's also still a little slow in getting rid of the ball; not quite in rhythm. That all said, he's better in both regards than he was in the pre-season. A year of coaching is evident and he's improved significantly because of it. This kid is going to be an absolute monster as more and more of those rough edges are smoothed out but his ability to make something from nothing shines. |
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But Clay's wrong - that was a bad decision. He was hucking it as he was moving backwards to avoid pressure and made the number one mistake you do not make in that situation - late and over the middle. If that wasn't a bad decision, then no such animal exists. He got lucky. I won't knock him for the pick he did throw because that was a fine decision that he just didn't execute well - shit happens with rookies. I'll take execution errors when a guy's running the offense and making plays. But that wasn't an execution error - it was a mental one. The kind he can learn to avoid going forward. Fortunately Andy and Nagy won't be making excuses for him on the tape like Clay will do. He'll learn from that and be better for it. |
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He wasn't getting hit. If he throws it 10 yards farther it's six points. He knows he can throw that ball 10 yards farther so he's going to take that shot every time.
I can live with that. I think maybe he just got excited and tried to get rid of it TOO fast and it affected the throw. |
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THE FUTURE IS HERE
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He connects on that throw one time in 10. Wanna try it on 3rd and 17 from the 50? Sure, you do you, boo. But that decision on 1st down when you're a simple swing pass away from a game-winning FG was a bad one. Situational football is huge and that was a really REALLY bad demonstration of situational football. For perspective, the throw he made to Robinson was about 25 yards in the air off his back foot. He needed to more than double that throw (which was incredible) and do it over the middle of the field. It was a silly decision. |
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#627 |
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Another note - the most 'air yards' traveled on a complete pass this year was 61 yards on a Goff throw to Watkins (I think the TD ended up being around 65 yards after dropback and YAC yards but the throw went 61 yards in the air).
Goff had his legs set and put everything he had into the throw. That was the outer boundary of completed passes this year - and you're saying that Mahomes has so much arm strength that he should be attempting a throw 90% as long off his back foot while on the run into double coverage over the middle? Dude - calm down. It's okay to say the guy made a mistake. He absolutely, unquestionably made a mistake there. That was not a good decision by any stretch. |
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I’m still fine with it if he gathers him self a little and gets his momentum going forwards instead of backwards. I think he can absolutely throw it 55 yards if he does that. He just rushed it.
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I think I'm being generous on 1 in 10 and presuming that a receiver just makes a great play and takes it away. His best bet there was PI if the DB didn't get his head turned and Harris came back through him to get the ball. Clay thinks he underthrew him because he didn't think he had to throw it harder - I think he underthrew him because Jesus...he threw it 50+ yards off his back foot while falling away from the throw, what the hell do you think he can do? He put all the raw arm strength he had into that throw - it just came up short because of course it came up short. The guy has a brilliant arm but that's a throw that most guys can't get 40 yards downfield with as badly as he was contorted. He had no business attempting that pass. |
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He's some dipshit mult, ROR maybe, but I'm not sure.
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