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Old 03-22-2009, 12:15 AM  
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Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:47 AM   #616
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Can I trade picks to move up in the draft?
Not to take a first round QB. This is an alternate reality game, but that's too alternate. No women or cartoon characters can be on your roster either.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:48 AM   #617
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That was a joke. The trade up rules are in the OP.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:53 PM   #618
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That was a joke. The trade up rules are in the OP.
And it was a good joke.

But yes, the trade up and trade down rules are in the OP. Given that we have perfect information, it's expensive to do it, but it's been done rather routinely.

Oh, and remember, you can add any free agents to your training camp roster. I don't remember who the Chiefs have signed so far, and there'll be camp fodder, but you'll be able to add Bennie Logan and Mike Person and others. The rule is that you get to add anyone who is new to a Chiefs uniform other than the Chiefs' own draftees. I'll put up a list before our draft day, which will be right after the completion of the NFL draft day.

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Old 04-23-2017, 07:45 PM   #619
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As we prepare for the draft, you can add the following free agents to your roster:

James, Josh OL
Jenkins, Jarvis DL
Johnson, Cory DL
Jones, Seantavius WR
Logan, Bennie DL
Mitchell, Terrance DB
Ochi, Victor LB
Okine, Earl LB
Person, Mike OL
Ratelle, Will RB
Spiller, C.J. RB
Stave, Joel QB
Wilson, Julian DB
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Old 04-24-2017, 03:56 AM   #620
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I forget... Didn't see it in the rules...

Can we trade future year's picks if we are moving up? If no, well ok then haha. If yes, then also what is the value (many teams value it close to this year's pick, but its very inexact science)?
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Old 04-24-2017, 07:55 AM   #621
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No trading future years' picks. It's current year or nothing.

I'm delighted to pick up Mitchell and Logan and Person and maybe Jenkins in free agency. I need help in all of those areas.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:28 PM   #622
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Do we lose the people that the Chiefs cut? I can't remember.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:39 PM   #623
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Do we lose the people that the Chiefs cut? I can't remember.
You don't lose people who were cut, but you lose people who leave as a free agent.

So if you had Dontari Poe on your roster, he's gone.

Did we lose anyone else? Jamaal Charles and Jaye Howard were cut, so they can stay on your roster if they're currently there.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:09 PM   #624
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No trading future years' picks. It's current year or nothing.

I'm delighted to pick up Mitchell and Logan and Person and maybe Jenkins in free agency. I need help in all of those areas.
Damnit. I wanted to trade to #1.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:04 PM   #625
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Damnit. I wanted to trade to #1.
According to the rules, you can accept any Chiefs trade. So in this particular case, you will be allowed to accept the trade that the Chiefs made, even if it involves a future draft choice.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:08 PM   #626
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According to the rules, you can accept any Chiefs trade. So in this particular case, you will be allowed to accept the trade that the Chiefs made, even if it involves a future draft choice.
This one's a no-brainer for me. Curious what you'll do.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:49 PM   #627
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This one's a no-brainer for me. Curious what you'll do.
I'll almost certainly decline it because of Russell Wilson. A second quarterback would be great, but I have other needs that are more pressing. Dalvin Cook is looking pretty good for me given my needs.

This is going to be a major divergence point for our various teams, but I may be the only person who turns it down.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:20 PM   #628
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I'll almost certainly decline it because of Russell Wilson. A second quarterback would be great, but I have other needs that are more pressing. Dalvin Cook is looking pretty good for me given my needs.

This is going to be a major divergence point for our various teams, but I may be the only person who turns it down.
Don't blame you. But of course, hope you regret it. Irony is if you regret it you definitely won't regret it!
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:24 PM   #629
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Don't blame you. But of course, hope you regret it. Irony is if you regret it you definitely won't regret it!
Yeah, I really hope I regret it, but that my pain is salved by drafting a great running back to complement Wilson.

My choice pretty much has to be Dalvin Cook, the way I'm seeing things at the moment. I didn't think he would slide down to 27.

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Old 04-28-2017, 09:50 AM   #630
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Pretty sure everyone is keeping Mahomes as their draft pick.
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