***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Anyone else's water bill go way the **** up?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by notorious

I feel your pain. Goodness sakes, this weather has SUCKED.


Sun is coming for your soon.

we have nesting bald eagles all over right now, we are going out looking at them for a little while. they get all spread out when it is raining trying to get dry i think. its cool to see

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by notorious

The sun is out for the first time in over a week here in SW Kansas. A wave of happiness has hit our home.

We are going to spend all day outside.

It's going to be 88 down here today. Those spring breakers are going to be out in force on the beaches.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by stevieray

**** off lew.

..all I said is I'm going to see my friend again before he DIES.

I don't care what your opinion on it is.

And no where did I say not to see them.

Learn to read.

[RedRaider56]

So perhaps I overreacted with my daughter, but here's the backstory.

Boyfriend (who lives out of town) and his family go visit an Aunt in Columbia for the past week. My daughter is taking care of the boyfriends dog while he is out of town.
Family flies back a day early because Columbia is kicking out all tourists
Boyfriend decides he wants to fly back, come see my daughter, pick his pooch up and have her drive him back home this weekend (6 hour drive)
She tells me the plan and tell her nope.
He needs to fly home, self isolate for a week or two, then he can drive down and get the pooch (assuming gas stations are still open in 2 weeks etc.)

My daughter was not happy with me. I'm just trying to practical. Perhaps overreacted , but right now, I don't care.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

It's going to be 88 down here today. Those spring breakers are going to be out in force on the beaches.

Make the most of it and tell them to do their part in holding back the spread of Wuhan by going nude.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Because we all know that if you make more than $65k a year....you won’t get laid off or lose hours because of this.

Guessing it would be because they are thought to have more ability to have a nest egg, intelligence and better wear with all, etc.

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[notorious]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

we have nesting bald eagles all over right now, we are going out looking at them for a little while. they get all spread out when it is raining trying to get dry i think. its cool to see

You have bald eagles out there?

That's freaking cool as hell!

[neech]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Anyone else's water bill go way the **** up?

No

[Fish]

[Sigh of relief]

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Anyone else's water bill go way the **** up?

Stop jerking off in the shower.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Fish

[Sigh of relief]

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by lewdog

And no where did I say not to see them.

Learn to read.

And where did I accuse you of that?

learn to not assign accusations.

I have six posts in a 6k post thread.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

So perhaps I overreacted with my daughter, but here's the backstory.

Boyfriend (who lives out of town) and his family go visit an Aunt in Columbia for the past week. My daughter is taking care of the boyfriends dog while he is out of town.
Family flies back a day early because Columbia is kicking out all tourists
Boyfriend decides he wants to fly back, come see my daughter, pick his pooch up and have her drive him back home this weekend (6 hour drive)
She tells me the plan and tell her nope.
He needs to fly home, self isolate for a week or two, then he can drive down and get the pooch (assuming gas stations are still open in 2 weeks etc.)

My daughter was not happy with me. I'm just trying to practical. Perhaps overreacted , but right now, I don't care.

Are you talking about the Country in South America or the city in Missouri???
Either way I can’t fault you for trying to keep your family safe..

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Because we all know that if you make more than $65k a year....you won’t get laid off or lose hours because of this.

$65k and single in the midwest... yeah, you should probably have at least a little savings to fall back on, but even then there are circumstances where that might not be possible (medical bills, etc.).

$65k here doesn't get you nearly as far... and if you have kids, that would be insulting.

Much less NYC/California/etc.... I'd really hope if they're looking at something like that, they would put a little more thought into it first.